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You know you can just say "I don't know." It's not one or the other. How about don't believe either until we have compelling evidence explaining the origin of life?
That said, science already has far more compelling evidence on its side than religion regarding this topic. Which, as a reminder, has all of 0 evidence supporting it.
If you take that to its logical conclusion you end up at "I cannot doubt that I doubt, therefore, I am" (which is what Descartes was actually up to) and need a leap of faith to re-introduce even the existence of the material world because solipsism has just as much tangible evidence when considered from that refuge of pure egg-headed rationalism.
That's not so say that such a position is untenable, or unworkable, you could e.g. say "I will take any position that is compatible with both materialism and solipsism", hedging around the question. Point I'm making is that you're a reddit atheist who hasn't thought as deep about any of this than you think you did. You're not interested in the question, you're interested in distancing yourself from a position you associate with people who have hurt you in the past. Valid, of course, but how about focussing on the "hurting people" part instead of "can find meaning in the concept of a god" because the two are, indeed, orthogonal.
What the fuck are you talking about?
"I don't know" is the default. That's how epistimology works.
Yeah fuck right off. You know literally nothing about me. I probably know more about your hateful beliefs than you do.
Go beat your slaves (but not too much! Lucky for you, the Bible has very clear instructions on this!)
How do you know that you don't know? Can you be sure that you don't? Can you ascertain that you are not acting on assumptions you are not aware of, do not reflect on?
That is an actually skeptic mindset. Not your "Oh I don't share the same intuition as others they are wrong because they cannot justify theirs", but actually digging down into your own shit, seeing how much you can actually justify. Glass house, stones, and all that. Also that's not how epistemology is spelled.
True. I sorted you into the category of "reddit atheist" because you act like one, argue like one. Can I inquire about your reasoning behind sorting me into "Christian"? Because you're fucking ways far off.
I really don’t care what has evidence and what doesn’t. If someone is nice and not harming people I do not care if they believe the sky is green.
Until "the sky is green" becomes "I don't vaccinate my children"
He vaccinates his kids, as I said he is the smartest person I’ve ever met.
You act like we don’t have crazy atheists that are anti vax, flat earth or any number of things.
If you think all religious people are the same then that’s just ridiculous. Are all atheists the same? No no group of people are the same.
A willingness to ignore reality in favor of fantasy is a red flag to me. Get over it.
Have a great day my guy.
I will, you too.
Well, unlike you, I care about believing things that are true. So I will continue to care about evidence.
Not caring about evidence, on a societal level, leads directly to unnecessary suffering and death. And that goes way beyond vaccines.