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I remember my 6th grade civics teacher (a black man) was angry and depressed when Obama won, saying that republicans will never win another election again.
This country never course corrects after a seizure of executive power, so yes, that could happen.
But, if historical patterns hold true, Trump will lose Congress in the midterms. Clinton, Dubya, Obama, and Trump all went into office with Congress and lost control at the mid-terms, so it's fairly strong pattern.
Not that it matters much. Dems are conservatives too.
Interesting that people believe we're gonna have elections where Dems are allowed to win.
Yeah, I kinda assumed all elections from here on out will be like Russia: you can vote for whoever you want, but it won't count and you're going to get a visit afterwards.
I wish its a Russia situation, at least then I can claim political asylum in EU.
Nope, we're getting a Turkey situation, where the world still recognize the US as a democracy. So no political asylum to the EU lol.
(But also, people in Turkey have Schengen access, US citizens don't have such a thing. So its like Turkey minus Schengen, even worse than Turkey lol)
Political asylum for being in an undemocratic nation, does that happen? I want to learn.
Its one of the requirements for political asylum.
For example:
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Protesters in Tianamen Square in 1989 (some fled to the US)
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Falun Gong practicitioners
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Hong Kong Protesters
You have to have a lot of documentations, you can't just show up at the border and claim it.
If you country is recognized as a democratic country, your chances drop to almost zero. I literally have never heard of anyone from a western democratic country getting political asylum to another western democracic country.
"Allowed to win" implies they're actually trying to win rather than simply being "controlled opposition" for the Republican party to make elections appear legitimate.
Btw, Turkey is still recognized as a Democracy lolol
By who, trump?
Like... most of the EU
If they weren't considered a democracy, they'd be suspended from EU membership, but here we are... 👀
Edit: Apparantly I remembered wrong the Turkey isn't in the EU? 🤔 News be too depressing and I can't even remember shit anymore.
Turkey isn't part of the EU
Bruh, I swear I remember Turkey being in the EU. Feels like another "Mandela Effect"
Or was that because of the Finland Sweden NATO accention thing that I got the EU mixed up with NATO?
because of the Finland Sweden NATO [ascension?] thing
Yeah, I can understand that.
It's like figuring out where Ireland is on Brexit, the UK, the British Isles, Britain, etc. It's in half the groups Wales is in and half that it's not.
Yes Turkey is in NATO and has been since the early fifties. That’s probably what you were remembering. Since most of the EU is also in NATO (if not all, I’m not gonna look it up) it’s a totally understandable brain glitch!
It's been in talks forever it seems. The current authoritarian gov is actually a major hurdle for membership at the moment. They tried to leverage the whole Finalnd/Sweden NATO thing to become part of EU, but it didn't work.
it's okay i'm trying to get through this administration on the most amount of drugs possible too
Sounds like there might be some sort of politics behind all this.
I don't think so, the European Union is a famously apolitical organization.
The absolutely biggest issue with the US election system is the first-past-the-post systems still in use, just use proportional representation.
That will enable new parties to actually have a chance of being relevant.
That in turn will enable better representation of minorities and special interest groups.
Once the US is out of this mess, refrom is needed, get rid of the idiotic electoral college and any FPTP systems in use.
just use proportional representation.
Prop Rep is a hard sell. The part-person math is weird. Ranked-choice is an easier sell, so if you're looking to get off FPtP get people used to more candidates with RC before going all in with multiplayer prop rep.
You know how fucking lost you sound? I'm talking about how there is no possible way the GOP freely cedes power ever again and youre talking about fptp.
Relevant username? Go touch grass, bro. Doom scrolling and posting on lemmy won't make you a happy person.
I do fine
Edit: lol at the downvotes.
No you guys are right, I'm on the edge of a knife. I'm constantly flipping back and forth between jumping off a bridge or hanging myself in the basement. I see no light in this dark, damp, dreary, dogmatic, doomed world. I am fading, the light is fading. Hear my final bleating cry.
Calm down, no need to swear, I am not your enemy, I am talking about what would need to happen after a potential revolution, violent or otherwise, to prevent this from happening again.
Plenty of freedom movements have failed because there was no plan about what to do after taking power, or the plan was too vauge.
This is something that needs to be considered before a potential revolution happens, there also needs to be plans for what to do if the leader of the revolution refuses to complete the plan after taking power.
I am not lost, I am a few steps ahead of you.
Well, not the DOGE part. But yeah, I think that a dem sweep in the midterms is possible. And that a Democrat could win, assuming there is an election. The people who staff the polling places are community members, and you can still run for local office if you want to, and try to make your way up.
Oh, so you just think Dems will get into power, play neo-libs for 4 years and hand back the torch?
Right, mmmhm..
Even if a Bernie-like candidate wins presidency, no progressive policy will be passed.
Unless you somehow find a progressive in 218 congressional districts to win elections, and people to stand election in at least at least 25 states (for their 50 senate seats).
Yea its fucked.
Yeah. I am old so have watched this game a long time.
And you've seen a foreign born oligarch tear apart the federal government by his own grubby hands?
I stopped looking at the news for eleven seconds, what fresh hell did I miss?
Just doing the math. Hypothetically speaking, nothing is stopping the next Democrat President from appointing George Soros to the head of DOGE.
All jokes aside
DOGE isn't a thing except in the diseased brain of Elonia Mush. It's not a federal entity of any kind.
Elonia
Please don't do this. Insulting a man by calling him a woman is just more misogyny and doesn't help anyone.
I get what you're saying, but gatekeeping bullying tactics is weird ngl
I read it more as a lovers thing, like melonia, without the m. And trump and Elon as lovers seems about right, but it's one of those scary trailer relationships. Like, who's addiction will make who kill the other first? It would truly be some of the sickest dark fiction on HBO. Sadly it's on bbc, ap, NYT, WSJ, etc. etc.
Calling him a woman does nothing to insult women. Stop pearl clutching. It's an insult to the mans ego because of HIS beliefs, not ours. Buncha professional victims you lot are.
And George Soros being some kind of secret mastermind is also a right wing fever dream. Democrats wouldn't have any interest in doing such a thing
And George Soros being some kind of secret mastermind is also a right wing fever dream.
The funny thing is that so is the idea of Melon Husk being some kind of mastermind.
I am interested now! I want to see the democrats attempt to get away with this shit. I want to hear, not see, my grandmother raised from the dead to clutch her pearls if she even caught wind of such a thing.
I think you might kill every MAGA in one fell swoop from the collective gasp that depleted enough oxygen in their general vicinity so that they all died of suffocation.
Uh. Okay.
Zima blue? That you? I too long for the endless hours traversing swimming pools with my purpose so defined, and my life full of meaning.
I think the point was more to make the Nazis mad?
With the Supreme Court giving presidents immunity for "official actions" if you became president nothings really stopping you from just executing people you don't like. Installing someone like Musky? Sure, why the fuck not.
Well...let me ask you this: how attached are you to your current hairstyle?