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Donald Trump reiterated his claim that Canada would be better as the U.S.’s 51st state, citing trade imbalances and lower taxes.

He also announced new 25% tariffs on steel and aluminum imports, including from Canada, despite a recent 30-day reprieve.

Canadian PM Justin Trudeau has not formally responded, but a government source said they await official confirmation.

Trump criticized Canada’s defense spending and border security, despite recent Canadian commitments.

Canada previously retaliated against similar tariffs in 2018 before a 2019 trade deal resolved the dispute.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

If I have to fight for my country and defend it, then I'll happily do so.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Hey, uh, if he wants another state…

What about Puerto Rico?

I'd love to hear the excuse against that vs. Greenland and Canada.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

Theres a reason why he isn't making the same threats against Mexico.

There's a reason he wants to resettle Palestinians before redeveloping Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago

They're not even hiding the racism any more.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Too latino for him, not enough resources.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

What a hell of 4 years that await us...

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's currently trying to get a 51st state (Canada would need to be at least 6 or more, in all honesty), but it looks like he's at risk of losing some states from where I'm sitting.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only way Canada would join the union would be as an occupied territory, and we would do everything possible to fuck shit up from within.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

If he tried to invade Canada, I think he’d quickly be fighting a war on two fronts, because sane Americans like myself and others that are organizing aren’t going to just let that happen. Hopefully, if half our military hasn’t lost their minds too, they’ll join us.

[–] Adderbox76 9 points 23 hours ago

Multiple fronts I'd imagine.

I'd easily imagine Mexico declaring and starting to fuck shit up at the southern border.

Depending on when it starts, potentially embargoes from Europe. (Right now I think they're still too skittish, but if Trump invades after he's spent another year or so destroying international relations, I don't doubt Europe would slap embargoes on him. At some point, those countries that host American bases would tell them to fuck off back home which in the short term would be bad for Canada since it would be reinforcing the American military, but in the long term destroying America's global reach.

I'd accept casualties if it meant taking care of American imperialism long-term.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

I would hope our NATO allies would fulfill their commitments too!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Yeah I’m American but live abroad, if he tried that shit I’d fight for the defense of Canada.

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[–] [email protected] 217 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (36 children)

Most of us would rather die than ever become an American. Want a good example of the mood in Canada summed up against our 'ally to the south' as of late? Well let me just personally put it this way. You, the United States, are a fucking joke.

To quote an author, Stephen Marche, who spoke on the CBC here in Canada recently... The bold is mine but the emphasis really should be placed there anyway.

They've [The US] come off of 70 years of failed wars of occuption. One thing you have to understand about these comments is that they come from a profound weakness that America is really unfamiliar with. And Canada is unfamiliar with America being this weak. They can't hold Baghdad, I'm not sure why they think they can hold Montreal. But they're also being kicked out of Niger and you know they are weaker than they've ever been in a lot of ways. They are extremely fragile as a country. They have absolutely no solidarity, they have absolutely no unity. They are in the middle of dismantling their administrative state and war is a is a test, fundamentally, of the strength of the administrative state. So I think you should take this about as seriously as you would take the ramblings of a crack addict on the subway. I.e, you pay attention to it and get out of the way and you do what you can but, you know, this is not something to be treated like an actual... this is not something to be thought about. It's just the ramblings of lunacy.

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I think he's [Trump] actually managed to make Canadians patriotic for the first time since I can remember. You have to say, he's the president of the United States but the United States is crumbling. Institutions are falling apart and 'Who the United States is at this moment'... that's not a meaningful phrase. You have to ask yourself which America are you talking about, which institutions are you talking about, because they are not under the guidance of anyone, right?

[...]

All he [Trump] can do is destroy. The American stock market is falling, even the threat of this [tarrifs on Canadian goods] has caused inflation to raise it's head. The American people fired everyone who has caused gas prices to rise almost immediately. They can tolerate almost anything from their political class. War crimes, whatever, but increase gas prices they go crazy for. So it's just very important to understand that this is spoken from a position of profound weakness.

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America has never been an uglier place to become a part of. I mean who would wanna be American at this point in history. They're about to start killing each other. There is no question that there is a Canadian rejection of American values, the American government and Amreica itself. Why wouldn't you reject these people? They're awful.

Watch it for yourself here.

[–] [email protected] 107 points 1 day ago (5 children)

What a deservedly scathing review of the US of A.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

More flooding the zone. He won't do this. He is just stiring up more media to distract from him pickpocketing the whole country. His real deviousness is the sovereign fund play. He wants to take taxpayer dollars, which he is actively trying to raise for everyone making less than $500k a year, and put it into an investment fund that buys American stocks. Effectively, he wants to take money from 99% of Americans and just give it to the largest corporations. Everything else he is talking about is just distraction from that fact.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

You will be enslaved cherishingly.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The 51st state? Hard pass. Canada’s healthcare system alone would collapse under the weight of your insulin price gouging. Cherished state? More like a hostile takeover by a country that thinks avocado toast is a personality trait.

Those 25% tariffs? Cute. We survived your 2018 tantrum—maple syrup exports outlived your presidency. Funny how “trade imbalances” vanish when your golf resorts rely on Canadian lumber.

Defense spending critiques from a guy who tried to lease Alaska back to Russia? Bold move. Our border’s secure enough to keep your conspiracy theorists from storming Parliament Hill.

Stay mad about the poutine tariffs, though.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

One thing I despise about the US (gun violence and healthcare inequitability aside) is how it measures the value of everything in money.

It's culture is a commodification machine. Nothing can just be beautiful for the sake of being beautiful, it has to be made into a side hustle somehow.

Most Americans are married to their jobs and have little work life balance relative to Canadians and Europeans.

There is a remarkable amount of mental gymnastics done by people trying to gaslight themselves into thinking this is what they want, even though most would be happier and healthier with more time off.

[–] GreyEyedGhost 9 points 23 hours ago

I wouldn't call Canada's work/life balance good, but it's still better than America's.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Haha, I want a t-shirt that says : Stay mad about the poutine tarrifs 😂

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Anyone making “thanks trump” stickers for when our gas prices go through the roof and stick it at gas stations like they did with Biden

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

An invasion of Canada would result in so many Americans defecting and fighting for Canada or not cooperating and probably a Civil War when the west coast states (and possibly New England) secede. I imagine the military leadership would sooner stage a coup than cooperate and invade/occupy Canada. Plus, the entire world would side with Canada.

It’s the ramblings of a senile buffoon. There’s absolutely no one else calling for this (or invading Greenland/Panama) and no support from 80% of Americans — and close to 100% with people of fighting age. Even most MAGA idiots are isolationists.

And don’t forget, basically every major U.S. city is extremely blue. When you look at a red state/blue state map, remember that it’s actually an urban/rural divide. Port cities are especially blue. (Look at Louisiana for an example. A deep red state but Orleans Parish went 82% for Harris/Walz. Good luck winning any war with 90% of the port cities in full revolt.)

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (26 children)

This is going to be the weirdest part of any history book. People reading and trying to understand why the US suddenly turned on and invaded their close ally of Canada in a failed annexation attempt immediately after watching Russia struggle a similar (though less surprising) annexation of Ukraine, which the US helped fight against.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'm amazed at how quickly the US has come close to being on the brink of becoming a rogue state.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

At this point, I'm seriously wondering what the Reichstag fire will be that will prompt the US to conjure up an "enemy without," steamroll several sovereign countries and blockade the Mediterranean and most of the Atlantic.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

The US has been a rogue state for decades. Just that they used to be smart enough to keep some countries in the empire aligned without direct military force.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Cherished my ass. You've done nothing but disrespect them since you were elected. The only thing you want is their resources so you can hoard a few 100 mil before you kick the bucket in a few years. Which I find completely ridiculous because it's not like you get to take money into the afterlife, if there even is one.

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