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[–] [email protected] 2 points 50 minutes ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

With iOS app of paypal, you are forcefully giving honey as well, luckily, you can disable the safari plugin

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Any alternatives to PayPal?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Depends on which function you want to replace?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

I just have opted out overall and literally use as little as I can across the board.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 hours ago (9 children)

You literally cannot escape these companies, they own everything. Every brand of every everything, and you've got a large corporation in there somewhere in the shadows. That's why they tell you to separate the art from the artist, because it's been made impossible to boycott anything.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I can easily avoid every company owned by PayPal.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I wish I could say the same, I use PayPal very frequently because my credit union doesn’t support debit-visa. With PayPal I can make payments with my bank online rather than use my cc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Ah that's interesting, all the banks around me stopped issuing ATM cards and only issue debit cards nowadays. I wish I wasn't required to have a debit card with those banks - I purposely tell my banks to disable debit/POS features on the debit card so it is only functional at ATMs.

All that aside you should consider getting a credit card or a prepaid credit card for those types of transactions. It's safer to separate your bank account from your day-to-day payments/shopping, not great when someone gets access to your debit card which then gives them direct access to your bank account balance. At least with a credit card those situations are just a dispute that never affect your actual money in the bank.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (6 children)

I work in a servo/convenience store and about 3/4 of our drink fridges (all 10 or so doors worth) are the same 4 brands. Probably most of the store is covered under like 7 brands.

Coke, Pepsi, Schweppes, Nestle, Unilever and there goes almost everything edible and drinkable that isn't fresh.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Disagree, haven't touched PayPal or anything related to PayPal in years without issue.

When PayPal bought Venmo I stopped using them too. And long before that stopped using Ebay back when PayPal/Ebay were tied together.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 hours ago (12 children)

Really? Maybe true for things like Nestlé but I don't use any of these services directly and it hasn't been difficult.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

I just finished removing all my payment methods from paypal and have to wait for a transaction to complete before I can delete the account entirely. Took less than 15 minutes.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This site provides absolutely no evidence of any of its claims and even includes the following little gem in the FAQ section on that page:

Is PayPal Safe?

Yes, all Paypal transactions are encrypted. Plus, it has two-factor authentication and fraud protection.

Safe for its customers, or safe for PayPal?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

You want to hurt the money changer?

Use cash as much as possible... that shit really hurts these parasites.

Buy us bonds directly from the Treasury! They hate it!

[–] ininewcrow 3 points 6 hours ago

Another tactic is ..... don't spend money on things if you don't really need to. Why keep spending just to continually spend, spend, spend.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Wrong time to put money into government...

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Oh boy... Look up peter thiel, elon musk and david sacks to start - three stains on humanity working very actively to end it as we speak. They were the basin founding faces of PayPal (I mean, I think musk came on after the fact or was pushed out early or something, continuing the trend of him never actually creating anything). Currently they are alll very active in the trump admin - two with officially appointed positions, one in the shadows. Vance is also created by thiel. Look up that "Dark Gothic maga" video (musk's stupid name) that's been shared often recently.

Then separately, PayPal owns Honey, and it turns out has been scamming millions, maybe billions away from online creators for years, probably some of your favorites included in that list. Active lawsuit ongoing - look up legal eagle's video maybe as a start.

All these billionaire fucks made their fortunes through Paypal and still likely hold stock and maybe board positions, can't recall?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Hear, hear. It fucking sucks that we created these monsters. At least I did, for simply wanting to use eBay.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

It's an early specimen of "unregulated bank", founded in part by Trump buddy Peter Thiel and merged with Elon Musk's X.com in 2000.

They have a history of locking accounts under false pretenses and seizing the money. It's screwed over many a Kickstarter and Indiegogo. Early in Minecraft history, Notch lost access to over half a million dollars. They've failed to pay rewards in their software bug bounty program.

Edit: The usual antics for Musk and friends for 20 years.

Also, I checked my records. I'm biased (a word that the current US administration is erasing from all government documents) because of an early Amazon third-party seller plus PayPal experience; the item I was sent was wrong and 5% of the value of what I ordered. Returned sealed cheap item, seller wouldn't refund. PayPal ruled in the seller's favor and Amazon did not care because of third-party seller terms and conditions. A young person out a few hundred bucks doesn't forget that.

Braintree, Honey, Paydiant, Tradera, Xoom, and Zettle all owned by PayPal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Not the modern X.com to be clear; Musk just has a weird fetish for the letter X like an edgy teenager.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Now you got me started on X... 😂 While true, Musk is no fool and bought such a simple and recognizable domain back from PayPal in 2017 for an undisclosed amount.

He's a successful businessman, no doubt. Problem is that billionaires are pulling up the ladders behind them as wealth inequality is increasing (power is concentrating).

Twitter was well-known to be infested with bots when Musk purchased it. Turns out, that made it more valuable to someone rich who wants to sway elections...

Shop local, use smaller local services (credit unions), drop services owned by or purchased by billionaires (Too busy ranting and I haven't actually read this article yet 🤣)

Decentralization, power to the people and not just the few, as the founding fathers intended. To our European viewers... He's coming. (You know who. Not talking about Jesus who the churches have replaced with culture war nonsense.)

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