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Approved flags for display in government buildings and schools would include the Utah state and U.S. flags, military flags, flags for other countries, flags for Native American tribes and official flags for colleges and universities. The bill also allows for the flying of a “historic version of a flag ... that is temporarily displayed for educational purposes,”
So, fuck it, every school in Utah should do a special educational bit about the history of the city of Cusco between 1978 and 2021..
“There are instances where in classrooms, you have curriculum that is needed to use flags such as World War II, Civil War,” he said. “You may have a Nazi flag. You may have a Confederate flag, and so you are allowed to display those flags… as part of the curriculum, and that is okay.”
There are no such instances. Students are fully capable of learning about the Confederacy and the Nazis without those actual flags being present in the classroom. They know this, so there must be some other reason they're pushing this bill.
I dunno, man, I didn't understand the Holocaust at all until my teacher starved some students to death and tossed them in an oven.
if this were to actually happen, I'm positive some people still wouldn't get it
They'd just do what they've been trained to do since 2016. "Fake news! Fake news!"
They're also admitting that they don't teach anything about LGBTQ+ at all in any realm. Not health class, civics, history, art, nothing.
I had friends raised in Utah. This is true. You might get a week-long unit at the high school, but otherwise, unless you have a GSA club, LGBTQ+ history is muffled.
But oohhhh, they'll talk about Pioneer History every year in History class.
Honest question: is there any other state/region in the world where a cult has unbridled power?
Utah boggles my mind.
Iran. North Korea. Russia.
"Congratulations" for joining that party.
And by Pioneer History, they mean Mormon-church approved Mormon history.
As a high schooler in Utah, this is true. There's essentially zero mention of the community even existing, except for certain classes where it inevitably comes up (like current issues), and even then only certain teachers will approach those topics, and it's definitely not part of their curriculum.
"You may have a Nazi flag. You may have a confederate flag... "
I mean, hey, who doesn't for just such an occasion?
It's so funny when they call themselves out. Are you saying those two flags have something in common, Trever?
This is some BS man. He's saying you can fly the Nazi flag because it's "historic". Well, hell, isn't the gay pride flag historic? Good luck getting a definition out of these fucks. If he could write the law he really wanted to write it would say "keep off any flags I don't agree with".
I only read the listing in the comment and that says "any historic version". I don't think the pride flag fits that description since it's not an old version of any of the other listed categories, no matter how historic it is in itself.
by historic he means it's part of their history. sorry but this is some "that's our heritage" bullshit. they allow it cause they identify with it. they don't like the pride flag because identifying with that is scary to them.
Technically, if something happened yesterday, it is also historic.
More along the lines of not wanting kids to know or being exposed to lgbtq culture, but he is fine with kids knowing about and being exposed to Nazi culture
It's been a unit battle flag more than once iirc.
I firmly believe this is because we've lost almost all of our world war two veterans. These shitlords kept it under wraps all these years because deep down, they knew pap paw would 100% get up out of his wheelchair to kill one last Nazi.
I think we know the solution then.
Be like pap paw
God I hate living in Utah.
Whole world is going crazy like that nazi/right way. Not just Utah. There is no place to escape. We should be strong and withstand these "tests" of our worldview.
Yeah, ok. So not even pretending to hide it anymore. I fucking hate this country.
Why would they hide it? The more they flaunt, the more their base is emboldened. Turns out people fucking love evil.
Do they also salute the flag with a musk salute?
I think calling it a Musk Salute might actually be a great idea if the media is so unwilling to call it a Nazi Seig Heil.
Call it a Musk Salute to the Nazi flag.
If you read both the linked story and its update you will see a good example of how the press is supposed to interact with power. In sharp relief to the cringing fawning appeasement we see the mainstream press engaging in with this criminally insane presidential administration.
I’d imagine the armbands will be next.
I'm guessing that soon it might even be obligatory to wear certain arm bands, maybe of the yellow kind? Adorned with a pretty star, perhaps?
'Pink triangle on her sleeve, let me know the truth, let me know the truth...'
You know how people say the fact that we never excised confederates/slavery from amongst us has led to modern issues? Well, the same holds true of Mormons. Most Americans have no idea the level of money, clout, and insane shit based in Utah. For example, I bet you didn't know the Mormon church owns approximately 1 in every ~550 acres of privately-held land in the United States. Warning: the Mormon bullshit rabbit hole is deeper than you can imagine and may cause you to start writing a years-long book project, in my experience. You've been warned!
Mormonism is America's future. It's the prosperity gospel attached to a powerful lobbying contingent that exists to perpetuate MLM schemes.
If you think things are bad now, wait until Mormons are fully in control of California.
That's a strange veer towards a completely unrelated topic... But anyway, considering that roughly 1 in 100 people are Mormon in the US, it's not that surprising that 1 in 550 of the land also is. It's surprising they're trailing so far behind the average actually.
EDIT: oh wait, you mean the church owns it. Yeah, ok, that is very weird. But Mormonism is a very weird thing by definition...
Yeah, that's church-owned. But does raise the interesting point of prominent Mormon billionaires/CEOs. And investment firms. And investments. And their history with the federal government/Republicans. And...
The only reason to have a nazi flag in a school curriculum, is to learn how to tear it down and rip it in two.
That's because love and compassion for others is obviously evil.
While hatred and oppression of minorities is good and righteous.
But of course you have to be an idiot to understand that, so you probably don't.
Headline is kind of clickbait
The bill also allows for the flying of a “historic version of a flag ... that is temporarily displayed for educational purposes,”
“There are instances where in classrooms, you have curriculum that is needed to use flags such as World War II, Civil War,” he said. “You may have a Nazi flag. You may have a Confederate flag, and so you are allowed to display those flags… as part of the curriculum, and that is okay.”
The law is still dumb for wanting to ban the pride flag.
I would just show the kids a picture of the flag in the book and if they don’t understand why some Americans are objecting to the flying of a Nazi flag. Maybe they should read the damn book. 
I had a teacher put a Confederate flag in our classroom 'for history'. She also spent the entire weeks-long Civil War module drilling into our young minds that the war was about States' rights, not slavery.
Huh.
I grew up in deep mormon territory in Utah. I don't disagree with the comments on religious extremism and bad politics, but remember the people this bill will affect are kids. The LDS church is losing youth for a variety of reasons, their policies toward LGBTQ being a big one. The nazi flag is rage bait meant to distract from the real harm of this bill.