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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced retaliatory tariffs after Donald Trump confirmed 25% tariffs on Canadian goods and 10% on energy, set to take effect at 12:01 a.m. Tuesday.

Trump justified the move by linking it to fentanyl smuggling concerns.

Trudeau called the tariffs "unjustified" and imposed 25% tariffs on $155 billion in U.S. goods, with $30 billion effective immediately and the rest in 21 days.

He warned of price hikes and job losses in the U.S., arguing the move violates Trump’s own trade agreement from his last term.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Today I watched both Trudeau and Sheinbaum's addresses.

I must say that Americans get even worse reputation everytime Trump and Vance talk even just because of the contrast with some of the best, most prepared speakers and I must say attractive individuals in politics today.

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 day ago (2 children)

American here.

100% support you Canada. Keep it up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago

Ditto. Our only hope is for brave nations like yours to smack our leaders down.

My fear is that, the brain washed swarms will ignore the shortcomings and scapegoat something else.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago

<3

We know it's not all of you.

[–] [email protected] 295 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

I like Cory Doctorow’s plan.

The reason Canada got tariff-free access to sell to the US in the first place? Canada agreed to enforce penalties for tampering with digital locks, following the premise of the Digital Milennium Copyright Act.

If the US is going back on the deal, then Canada should too. Make it legal to jailbreak all US tech.

Doctorow advocating for this plan:

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Heck, make it legal to pirate all American media.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

A surprising amount of 'American' media is filmed and produced in Canada. ~~Toronto~~ Vancouver is like Hollywood North. This would probably be a footgun

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hit where it really hurts: stop paying Microsoft.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

It’d be nice if somewhere, other than Russia and China, was doing the important reverse engineering work.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If the US is going back on the deal, then Canada should too. Make it legal to jailbreak all US tech.

That should be considered with plans for further escalation varying from nothing to an embargo.

Though arguably piracy and jailbreaking are not so bad for said domination. Microsoft practically encouraged piracy in ex-USSR at some point. Piracy solves the availability problem, supports market share, leads to short-term loss in sales but long-term growth.

But that's Microsoft, while US government in general seems to think DMCA is for them what the Sound was for the Danish crown in middle ages.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Carry on Prime Minister Trudeau and create better trade deals with the EU, EEC and friendly Asian countries.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

Trudeau’s measured retaliation shows Canada won’t back down but prioritizes diplomacy over chaos.

🐱🐱🐱🐱

[–] [email protected] 138 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump is such a vindictive moron. Whether he's a Russian asset or just a certifiably stupid, the end result is the same.

Good god I hate this fucking timeline. Fuck corporate America for backing this monster and fuck everyone who voted for him. Fuck the Democrats for collectively shrugging about all this too.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Whether he’s a Russian asset or just certifiably stupid

Most definitely both.

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 2 days ago (29 children)

unfortunately, America has created a system where we can’t really do anything about the president at this point I am really wondering how long will the global world order allow Donald Trump to continue to screw things up for everybody else? Not just talking about economics with Mexico, Canada and China. But also the military situation in Ukraine, which directly impacts the European Union as well as NATO 

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The problem is that the global order is collapsing. That's what makes this possible for Trump and his companions. It's been going to shit for a while. We're entering a world where international law will be less important. Sadly.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

International law was already completely irrelevant when it came to the developed world imposing its will on the entire developing world, or anyone classified as an "enemy". There are hundreds of violations across the years that were never enforced, from America carpet bombing south east asia and installing puppet regimes around the world, to Russias use of phosphorous warheads and chemical weapons in Syria, to Israel (and allies) genocide in Palestine.

International laws have only ever been, at best, gentleman's agreements among the developed world's oligarchs and political classes.

What's happening now is the US political class and oligarchy are shifting allegiance to fascist authoritarianism and imperialism, because both are populated with mentally ill narcissists and psychopaths of insatiable greed and megalomania, completely detached from reality; no different to the feudalist monarchs, emperors and pharaohs of old.

I also don't believe this is an America problem, as much as it is a capitalism problem. Americas oligarchy are no different to Russias oligarchy, who are no different to Chinas oligarchy, who are no different to every oligarchy. They are borderless, stateless, only worship wealth and power, and are a reflection of the psychology created by unchecked wealth and power; these people view themselves as the rightful rulers of humanity, by virtue of their wealth and power, and views concepts like democracy a direct threat to their existence.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn't want Trump to become president for many reasons, one of the main ones being I didn't want him to pull USA out of NATO, because it strengthens our shared enemies.

Things are actually going worse than I expected, which is really impressive.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I know people are probably sick of hearing this, but I kind of figured this would be the worst possible case imaginable because the same thing happened to Hitler. They threw his ass in jail and then after a couple of months they let him walk and then when he regained power, he knew that he could never lose power again, and if he did, he’d never be able to accomplish his personal objectives. 

There’s something about history that we can learn from here. I don’t know why Trump was even allowed to run, but yeah, here we are. 

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Don't retaliate 1:1. Retaliate 5:1.

Burn the fucking bridge already.

[–] wirebeads 77 points 2 days ago (5 children)

We need to really turn the screws into the U.S. Along with applying tariffs, we also need to just outright stop delivery of critical materials they need. Full Stop.

I’m know this is just a sounding board, but honestly I’d love to see the cutting off of any and all essential raw materials they need. I’m sure they can source it elsewhere, but they most likely can’t get enough of it fast enough.

Cut off anything they need for energy and more importantly: agriculture.

People can live without power. Make their stomachs ache.

Trump is a diseased cunt who doesn’t understand what happens when things don’t go his own way. Let’s show him.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 days ago

The Beaverton had as a headline a few weeks back along the lines of "Americans choose the most expensive way to figure out what they purchase from Canada" which I thought was appropriate.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

I said it before. Stop sending aluminum and steel and aerospace and military manufacturing would suffer immensely. That is 90%+ of all good made, metals have strict import requirements and certifications, and we couldn't just make our own on a whim.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 days ago

Why doesn't trump just setup fentanyl production in the states? Seems like a easy fix for me /s

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Excuse my ignorance but wouldn't that make things more expensive for Canadians as well?

:edit: thank you all for answering me. I totally understand now.

Fuck trump

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

Yes. It's alright, I've managed to mostly eliminate American products. Anyone smart or at least patriotic has looked into it as well, since the madness began. It was kind of neat watching the US products just sit on the shelves while Canadian stuff emptied out.

To reiterate what all our politicians have been saying to US media, Trump is raising prices on Americans to hurt us, it's for no good reason, and we're forced to do the same on our side.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

There is a reason, is just like this old Western movies. The wealth banq/ranch owner that rules the town, is diverting the local stream to dry up the pretty widow a farm. Saying you know you would be much better off marrying me. I would cherish you and add you worthless farm to my ranch. Only he knows the train line is about to be installed and would turn that little plot of land into very valuable real estate. Ducking the widow in the as every night is just bonus.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I am starting to understand how felon tRump bankrupted casinos

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