They’re voting to select a new party leader; while that may result in them becoming the new PM, it’s not the same thing.
this post was submitted on 08 Mar 2025
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I would have voted to replace Trudeau as PM, you're right the title is very misleading.
Trudeau resigned, there was no vote to replace him, there was a vote for who would replace him.
The new leader will replace Trudeau as PM; he said he'd step down as PM once the leader is elected. It's just that the same day this happens, parliament will come back in session and almost certainly bring this new government down in a vote of non-confidence. The new leader will stay PM over the course of the campaign period.
Edit: The new government being voted down isn't as much of a certainty. The NDP have walked back their promise to do so; not sure about the Bloc. Either one could prop up the Liberals.
...and if Carney wins, he'll be PM but not an MP. The last time the PM was not a MP, it was John Turner. That was after Justin's father Pierre resigned. History is repeating.
The LPC lost badly under Turner in the next election - Cross your fingers.
The polls have clearly shown that Carney as the perceived front runner is crushing the conservatives lead
I don't know if they'll force a general election right away, but it would be wise for Carney to seek a mandate.
He doesn’t have a seat so I think an election will be called asap so he can get a seat.
is a seat a requirement to be PM?
No not a requirement, he can be PM without a seat - but it’s very unusual. There will be a general election called soon. He’ll get a seat.
Any Senate appointments available right now? PM can rule from Senate.
I think all senate appointments are full. My guess is there will be an election called March 10.
The new PM will call an election before giving any party the chance to vote them down.
I don't see what they would gain by doing that. The slim chance of staying in government until the fall is super valuable to the Liberals, giving the ability to get the new leader's name out there and to prove that they can handle Trump.
Edit: Yesterday the NDP said that they're no longer committing to bring down the government so I feel like the Liberals have more of a reason not to drop the writ. That being said, Carney said he'd be willing to call an election once he's sworn in. So we'll see
Cause if they don’t the rhetoric from the CPC will be unending. My guess is an election will be called in the next week before March 24. Plus Carney needs a seat in parliament.
He doesn't need a seat, except by convention, and practicality. But it's not a legal necessity.
Not a legal necessity but I would say very important to have at this time. Given that other countries (the US) and people (Elon Mung) are weighing in on Canadian politics with no knowledge or understanding of how our parliamentary system works. Donald already farted out his mouth that JT was using the tarrif situation to “hang on to power” which is complete lies and bullshit needless to say.
While it's true that Trump is a legitimate threat to our security and even our sovereignty, I think it's also true that nearly every MLA in Canada (ie MPs, MPPs, and other MLAs) are exaggerating their concerns in an attempt to consolidate power. Donald might not be clear on the details, but he knows how the game is played.
This is a Naomi Kline-esque "shock" and we are getting fucked from both sides right now. Those claiming to be our friends, are not our friends.
I don’t think so. Trump wants to expand the territory of the US. Be it in Panama, Greenland, Canada, or Gaza - he will make some attempt. That’s what authoritarians do, see Putin & Ukraine, Xi & Taiwan, Hitler & Austria. I hope it’s not Canada because that would definitely spark a war. I don’t think clear threats to our sovereignty are exaggerations or attempts to consolidate power at all. We do however need a mandate through a general election to deal with the US.
You don't think that the so called good guys are taking advantage of the situation?? You don't think the Westons are dumping millions of dollars into astroturfing a "Buy Canadian!!!!!1!!" campaign? You don't think Ford and the LPC are exploiting the situation to (attempt to) win elections they otherwise could not possibly? You think the LPC is really on YOUR SIDE??
The Liberal's odds RIGHT NOW (h/t John Goblikon) are better than they have been in years. There's no guarantee they will get better still in six months, they could easily tank again.
Who did y'all vote for? I voted Carney because he's the only one I trust to stand up to Krasnov.
Carney
Freeland
Gould
Baylis
Carney, Baylis, Gould, Freeland for me.
I would have ranked Freeland higher too, except Krasnov already hates her, so I don't think she could turn this situationship around.
She has experience dealing with Trump successfully. She would probably be the best choice in that regard IMHO. She also has experience dealing with Russia. Putin and Trump are both afraid of her. She is also smart as hell.
Unfortunately, she does not have a good rep country wide, and too much baggage with the Trudeau government. And sadly, there is a large portion of people in Canada that could not vote for a woman, which is disgusting in this day and age. I think she would make a great leader, but feel she would have zero chance of winning a federal election.
And sadly, there is a large portion of people in Canada that could not vote for a woman
Very sad. I agree. If I thought all we needed was to piss off Krasnov/Putin, I would have ranked her at the top. But we do have to consider keeping Lil pp out of the PM Chair also.
Her Ukraine first BS disqualifies her. That "experience" was a disgrace.
- Carney
- Gould
- Baylis
Didn't rank Freeland because I really dislike her
I ranked em the same, but put Freeland in 4. I didn't know you could leave people off the ballot and still have your vote counted!
Yeah, the instructions said you could rank as many or as few as you like. I'm not sure what the effect is of not ranking someone vs ranking them 4th, aside from their internal statistics
It's amazing what you learn when you actually read the instructions, lol!
I didn’t register to vote before IT was too late but I would have voted for Carney too
Hopefully this is done in one round so we can get down to the business of actually doing something.
I hope so! I’m normally an NDP voter but I really feel Carney is who should be in charge for all of this
This is how I feel (and I don't really like Singh anyway). Gould is probably my favourite candidate of the Liberals, but I think Carney is what we need to get us through tough times, so I ranked Carney first.