We should. You should demand we do. Am American, and I fully support this.
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What's the opposite of eating the onion? I saw this elsewhere this morning and though haha, that's obviously satire.
I think we should if they pay us for the shipping charges in French-made guillotines. We need a lot of those in the US right now.
Someone's been keeping tabs on the price of copper.
To whom? Macron, who refuses to respect the will of the voters, and continues to elevate the far right in France?
Thank you; people keep getting excited whenever France makes moves towards forms of leadership these days but I can't help but suspect that Macron doesn't want to eradicate the global hegemony America had held through recent history but put France in its place.
Demanding back a gift given in celebration of America's abolition of slavery solely on the basis that France was the one to gift it (i.e. ownership) is too on-the-nose, even if you tried.
You don’t need to suspect. He’s confirmed it plenty of times. He will shut the country down before allowing the left to seize power.
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"Welcoming huddled masses" is no longer US policy. Statue of Liberty is "woke propaganda", and US should now welcome getting rid of it. No horribly inappropriate/misplaced Ukraine warmongering justification needed.
Hasn't been since before ww2
This feels appropriate
welcome to Lemmy btw :)
That's rich coming from a party which saved the (partially) far right government from dissolution.
There's a big difference from the far right and full blown nazis
Yeah, that difference is about 8 years.
wtf I love the French now.
Love you too bro. Now riot
Not just yet... we're waiting for checks notes the government to individually wrong every last one of us directly while not hurting our enemies in any way
I mean not me, My pitchfork is fresh, but I'm not going out until there's a crowd :) Murderbots will be hunting me down in the street.
My real worry is that instead of calling on the military to quell violence, they'll call the military industrial complex who will send in the murder drones.
My real worry is that instead of calling on the military to quell violence, they’ll call the military industrial complex who will send in the murder drones.
Some programming wizard needs to secretly program empathy into these
secretly program
I fear Asimov's three rules are not going to make it into the GOP Murderbots.
I mean, they're the country we probably owe the most to.
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I could legitimately see this happening, by now. Fox News builds it up for a week, then Trump/Musk make a big spectacle of sending it back and replacing it with a giant statue of Trump.
replacing it with a giant statue of Trump.
Made of plastic, made in China
Don't bring that thought into reality.
You can picture it, can't you. The entire thing covered in shitty gold spray paint. My God, it's becoming so clear now...
Edit: Fun fact, Grok wouldn't create the same image featuring Kamala Harris.
No that’s not right - you gotta lose the torch and make it look like he’s “sending his heart out to the world”
Edit: also, holy censorship, Batman :O that is wild.
Could you set the arm at a slightly lower and rightward angle? Open palm, maybe?
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They'd probably melt it down instead, just to avoid giving it back.
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This is pretty funny tbh.
Until they replace it with a Trump statue
Y'all can come take it, I'm not gonna stop you but I'm also not going to pay for it
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He is not wrong.
has the us ever truly stood for the values the statue is said to represent?
My family came to the US via Ellis Island as poor Jewish immigrants escaping pogroms of Eastern Europe.
Yes, the US once was a land of opportunity that did help the lives of many poor & oppressed families.
They slammed the door shut shortly before ww2. So the statue had meaning for like 30-40 good years.
Depends on what you think it represents.
It's traditionally a symbol of opportunity, or new start style liberty.
America has, for a long time, been a place of hope or opportunity for immigrants. Not necessarily welcome, kindness, or prosperity, but hope.
With the visibly growing xenophobia this has tragically waned, but even still we have some of the highest immigration rates in the world.
The poem at the base of the statue, The New Colossus, makes its meaning pretty clear.
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
The US never lived up to the promise the statue made.
Meh, she wasn't actually made for us. The artist that made her was commissioned by the Sultan of The Ottoman Empire, and he paid up front, so the artist got to work in the mid 1800s. The Sultan wanted her standing at the entrance to the Suez Canal, which was due to open soon. That's why she's Egyptian/ Middle Eastern. It also explains her crown. She's a light bearer. She was supposed to signify the knowledge and wealth that flowed from the Ottoman Empire to Europe and Asia. She originally carried a torch and a bouquet of spices and herbs.
Unfortunately for the Sultan, he died before the artist, or the canal, was completed. When the artist contacted the new Sultan to let him know he was ready to construct her, the new Sultan told him to go ahead and melt her down for all he cared. He graciously said that the artist didn't owe him any money back, and that he was certain that the artist did good work, but he believed that statues were graven images, and therefore they no longer wanted the statue.
Fast forward to 1871.
The artist has a meeting with The French Ambassador to America, The President of the French-American Friendship Society, and himself. Turns out the US centennial is coming up. The ambassador suggested that the artist remove the bouquet, and replace it with a book that contains the most American sounding thing ever, and they'll never notice she isn't European. So the ambassador and president gathered up the funding, and sent the newly dubbed "Lady Liberty," from the Parisian warehouse she had been gathering dust in, to New York in time to be fully erected by July 4, 1876.
That date is completely wrong and the rest of this comment is full of inconsistency anyway. The root of this claim is only traceable to a fraudulent historian known for pro-islamic hate, propaganda, and fictitious historical Turkish/Ottoman revisionism, named Mustafa Armagan. Yes, the sculptor wanted to make a statue for the Suez Canal, but the directors involved declined. There is no evidence the Ottomans paid for it, that the statue was crafted before the plan to give it to the US, that the Ottomans had enough say in the Canal's decoration when the project was conceived and constructed during a more autonomous Egyptian rule with heavy French influence, or that anything was modified in physical form from an Egyptian figure. The only thing thing confirmed to exist in 1876 was the torch arm which didn't even arrive until late 1876. The statue was not fully erected until 1886. The design was reconfigured, not some "statue sitting in a Parisian warehouse" because the designer wanted to make it, not the Ottomans.
It's really not surprising that a generic semi-European woman would have some traits maybe closer to Mediterranean than French because it was an homage to the Colossus of Rhodes.
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Thought that this was a joke originally.