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[–] [email protected] 94 points 3 months ago (39 children)

I don't get it. Putin wants the land, their neutrality, to stop any weapon sales, for them not to join any alliance. And what does Ukraine get, besides eventual second invasion?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

They're inflating this because Russia can't let the war end quickly for his own safety.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We are already up to the second invasion, in recent times.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

True, we would be talking of a third invasion. Depends if you count paramilitary units that invaded Donbass after the occupation of Crimea. In that case it would be the fourth invasion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

What do you mean, Ukraine gets?

Putin probably.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

They get Putin

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Congrats to the EU. With the destabilization of one of it's largest allies it seems the most of the continent is uniting to make up the difference. Seems like Europe as a whole will dominate the next few decades

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We have our own unique blend of fascist movements in every country, unfortunately. Right now it's still manageable but it's not all sunshine and rainbows either.

Don't want to get all doomer, I'm very hopeful and proud to be European, but I do want to set realistic expectations. People need to fight the good fight and not rest on their laurels.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Luckily the common parliamentary system does seem more effective at slowing them down

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

If we don’t manage to royally screw it up… Brexit pun intended

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

They'll dominate alright, just not in a positive way

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you seriously wanted peace this wouldn't be a concern.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

That'd be true if both parties would actually want what they say they want, not if either party is untrustworthy and has a record of breaking agreements.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago (2 children)

EU Leaders promptly replied with a joint statement: "Or, what, exactly?"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Or Donald trump's ceasefire deal goes up in flames. No big loss there tho

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Resolved in one day as promised

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Art of the deal

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Something something red line. Something something nuclear war. Same old boring saber-rattling which translates to "stop defending yourself!"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Haha, no-can-do, Komrade

  • Europe

Best fucking investment ever! Definitely going to return multiples on the investment. Puttie's little massive scam be "booming" like Russian weapon depots!

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