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chronic wasting disease (CWD) sounds way the f worst than zombie deer. Unless the disease is transmitted through ... nope its not bites.
Prions have demonstrated an ability to remain activated in soils for many years, infecting animals that come in contact with contaminated areas where they have been shed via urination, defecation, saliva and decomposition when an animal dies.
The most recent research I heard was that human transmission was highly unlikely. It was kind of a big deal and happy news. The experiment involved high prion concentrations and human cells with a long exposure.
A few years ago, there was successful primate transfer, IIRC.
This is something I watch pretty closely.
Best controls are natural predators or heavy hunting to reduce population density.
Thoughts and prayers to the conservative deer hunters.
I'm not a hunter. But I do understand a lot about environmental conservation and the need for balance. We have eliminated enough of the animals that predate on deer such that some other means, ie hunters, are required to control deer populations. The other option is mass kills, which strike me as wasteful on so many levels.
When I lived in Vermont, there was a conservation movement to attract younger people to deer hunting because natural controls just aren't there anymore. Where I live now, a distemper outbreak decimated the coyotes, and the deer are out of control. The coyotes are finally bouncing back, but it's going to take a while. In my small city, the deer are so rampant, it's common to see dozens on a short bike ride through town. Their food supply is depleted enough such that most deer here appear unhealthy and undernourished. The exploded deer population have follow-on effects: increased expense for deer control measures, collisions (one almost slammed into me on my bike two days ago; not the first time), destruction of plantings to control erosion, and spreading ticks.
I would like to see prospering wild animal populations, rather than this mess we made.
Prions are one of the scariest things on this planet.
They’re downright awful. They can survive much higher temperatures than most other pathogens which means cooking often fails to destroy them.
Yeah it's like 800+ degrees to "kill" it. As prions aren't alive, they can't really be killed, just destroyed. And they last for years in the natural environment.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3160281/
Several reports have shown that prions can persist in soil for several years.
And get into the plants growing from that ground, infecting animals who eat them. Prion diseases are seriously scary, and I wish we were putting more effort into finding a cure.
How do you cure a protein in a stable shape?
That’s all a prion is, it’s just a misshapen but stable protein that causes other proteins to fold into that stable shape too.
You can’t vaccinate against a shape.
We can’t scan every protein in a body and selectively destroy the ones that shaped wrong.
The only thing to do is to destroy prions whenever they are found and with extreme prejudice. But, that’s expensive so it won’t get done.
Self-replicating protein fibers growing like plant roots through brain tissue? The only thing I can think of that would be worse is that fungus that infects an ant's brain and makes it go crazy.
Thank you for the links. I already knew about prions, but I'd never seen the Med Twins before. A channel where an attractive young man talks about medical science in a foreign accent? You just found my catnip.
I didn't even know it was my catnip until I found it, and I typically tend more toward the Cleo Abrams and Up and Atom types. But gosh, Manuel's dark, kind eyes, compassionate and informed tone, and natural bedside manner really took some of the edge off the horror of prion diseases. Like, if he were the one who had to break the news to me that I had CJD and only had one torturous year remaining, it'd be slightly more palatable.
Fr. CWD is a major reason I avoid venison. It hasn't made the jump yet, but damn if I'm going to be the 1st.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_wasting_disease
Since 2014, however, the CFIA has allowed animals from CWD-infected farms to enter the food chain because there is "no national requirement to have animals tested for the disease". From one CWD-infected herd in Alberta, 131 elk were sold for human consumption.[19]
Hmm.
Hunters have been diagnosed with the human equivalent shortly after eating infected venison. There's no proven causal link, but it seems like quite a coincidence.
Pretty sure they have kits you can use to send for testing for it if you hunt
Zombie Deer Disease makes me a lot more concerned about it than Chronic Wasting Disease.
Pretty much the only people that know about CWD around here are deer hunters because of license requirements.
Zombie Deer Disease makes it a billion times scarier and easier to remember
And some clowns
I want to buy everything from this but also get the impression that my financial information would immediately suffer identity theft.
“It trivialises what we’re facing,” says epidemiologist Michael Osterholm.
Oh, OK. So it's worse than "zombie deer disease". Cool. Cool, cool, cool.
Vampire zombie deer disease?! 😱
So .. will the current administration allocate funds to research and find solutions, or just keep firing federal employees on the front line and blame immigrants?
They just signed the order to shut down the Department of Education. I'll let you answer your own question.
Serious question: what happens to education now? I mean will there be a regulating body or what happens exactly?
If he pulls this off, I assume they're going to pursue this bonkers idea of private or voucher schools. They want to control the narrative in classes.
An educated voter is a dangerous voter.
Wow that's bleak.
Look up Charter Schools. It's fucked.
Oh, I've seen Abbott Elementary. I know how bad it is.
Section. 2. (a) From the link above says that responsibilities of the DoE will be transferred to the states in a way that maintains the services Americans rely on.
I'm doubtful that they are going to do it in an organized fashion though.
Thanks, sorry didn't open the link, should've done it before asking.
And yeah if the states handle this I can imagine the chaos caused by the disparity. This is a really interesting time to be alive.
Studies show that having healthy wild carnivores on a landscape can help weed out sick CWD-carrying elk and deer, but states in the northern Rockies have adopted policies aimed at dramatically reducing wolves, bears and mountain lions.
There's a reason that carnivores and herbivores live in close proximity. Those humans who fail to recognize that will likely succumb to the first human cases of CWD.
On a side note I used to work on a couple of golf courses in northwestern Ontario. We had an infected moose show up early one fall and had to shut the course down because he just kept attacking trees all over the course. Didn't eat or drink, just fucked around with trees. Scared the shit out of us.
Poor thing’s fried brain probably thought the trees were other moose or something
Maybe. It was shortly before the rut started so that would make sense.
That's a byproduct of them living in proximity, not a reason for it.
Except humans prevented it by removing predators. That's a reason for them to return to living in proximity. There should be predators.
A reason to return them, sure, but that's not what the comment says.
Seems like that's what it was infering, given the quote above it. Like, "There's a reason they live in proximity" meaning "we shouldn't interfere with that"
Scientist: "Don't call it zombie deer disease"
Scumbag Steve Reporter: puts it right in the damn headline.
Lmao, in the article it mentions issues about global trade, food supplies and shit lol, however if this shit gets to human-spreading, that's game over.
We'll get to it right after bird flu and mpox, right guys?
I've been training for this for years. All those hours in L4D2 are finally gonna pay off.
But it’s so catchy!
Zombie Deer Disease: It's Catching On!
I don't know why this reminds me of World War Z.
Oh come on! That's because of "zombie" in title and you know it.