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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Help! I'm trapped in a shit hole country and surrounded by moronic assholes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

So she's a child murdering monster. Got it.

"Pro-life" I'm sure.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

This is why you don't vote idiots into the white house. Imagine this quality idiot dictating policy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago

CHD and Kennedy have relentlessly spread dangerous misinformation about the safe, lifesaving MMR vaccine, including that it causes autism (it does not) and even deaths (it does not).

So much better that she just died rather than got autism and then died.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

People like this should be treated the same as parents who drive their kids without car seats and seat belts.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 19 hours ago

How this isn't abuse is beyond me. They'll screen about personal freedoms, but what about that poor child's personal freedom.

I hate that we let parents treat kids like property.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The denial after the fact is a necessary coping mechanism. Otherwise, they will suffer from the guilt of killing their child.

Which they absolutely did.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They'll probably come around to the realization in time, but we won't see that interview.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

She's figuring out why families 200 years ago had a dozen kids.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Not really. She didn't learn shit.

She gets to hold her dead child who could have had a full life thanks to modern medicine and pretend like she's the victim.

[–] floofloof 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There was another story the other day of a father whose unvaccinated daughter died of measles, and he said he was still glad she didn't get the vaccine because he didn't trust what's in it to be safe. These people's minds are not functioning rationally.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're chronically stupid.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Terminally stupid in this case.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

More like homicidally stupid.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The most generous way I can look at this is to say she's in denial. Five unvaccinated children with one dead. Apparently a 20% fatality rate (in her family) is not enough of a reason to get the vaccine.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

The most generous way I can look at this is she's a danger to her children, and they should be removed from her. Rejecting vaccines should not be a choice, just like choosing to starving your children should not be a choice.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 21 hours ago

Wild that you're just allowed to be a child murderer if you claim the magic voices in your head say it's okay. You'd think that the surviving kids would be saved from this kind of fucked up ideology, but in the U.S. we have concluded that it's more important for people to be delusional.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That's a 20% mortality rate. If vaccines had anywhere near that level of mortality risk, all the streets of every city in the world would be absolutely fucking littered with bodies. You have to be one dumb motherfucker to think this is some kind of vindication for your antivax position.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Well, the existence of these people are why the trolley problem is a problem at all. They think it's more ok for 5 people to die by them not doing anything than 1 people dying instead because of their involvement.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Crazy that anti-vax has even a fig leaf of personal liberty as a defense. Yes, you do have the right to make your own choices and you can be a negligent parent in 1000 different ways.

But this isn't even close to a personal freedom issue. You being a dumb piece of shit is a direct threat to the rest of society. YOU don't get to make the personal choice to kill MY child.

It should be simple for these serious diseases: unless you have a certified medical issue preventing it, you have to get the shot. Fuck any objection (personal, religious, whatever...). If there's some negative side effect or a bad vaccine batch, you get generously compensated for our collective societal fault in harming you.

Strap them down and jab them, let them bitch and moan about everyone's children being alive and healthy later.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Either that or, more gently, ban them from public spaces if they haven't had the vaccine -- schools, public administrations, grocery stores, malls, churches...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

This is the approach I would suggest. I do not agree with forcing people to take vaccines, but if they want to be part of society then this is a reasonable requirement. It's simply an extension of the duty of care principle we already have for healthcare environments where vaccination and other measures are required for people to work in.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Mine got the shots. They are ALL fine. And alive I might add. Fucking ghoulish cunts, protect your kids dammit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

have they detected 5g signals from them, these antivaxxers always claim something like that.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Woman who doesn’t use conventional birth control is shocked to discover this one weird trick.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

They cracked the code to the elusice 30th trimester abortion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

What a shitty mother. I feel sorry for her other children.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

There is a good chance she made 4 more future antivaxers

[–] [email protected] 8 points 20 hours ago

Poor child.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

... This isn't an onion article. That's horrifying.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She probably claims to be "pro-life" too

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Gotta keep having kids if you're going to let them die like this or disown them when they turn out wrong. Arrows for the quiver of god, or whatever. That poor child deserved to live a full life.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

In other words, irresponsible parents who should not raise kids in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

Not just irresponsible, delusional. At what point does delusional thinking causing a child’s death turn into neglect or child abuse?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Parents like these deserve a bolt right between the eyes.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

These fucking people are ghouls.

Edit: Christ, those times when I fail as a parent, all I need to do is read about this kinda bullshit. Holy hell. I cannot contemplate this attitude to the preventable death of one of my kids.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Pretty sure vaccines make measles more than 80% survivable so she’s missing out

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Wow how selfish can you be? What a horrible mom

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Welcome to the new America. It breaks my heart.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From there, the interview took a turn. The mother said that after the death, her other four children developed the disease. It "must have been petrifying," CHD's director of programming, Polly Tommey, who was leading the interview, said. "Yeah, it was. It was hard," the mother replied. But then, the family had the children treated by an alternative practitioner, Ben Edwards, who has grown popular in their West Texas community amid the ongoing measles outbreak. Edwards administers unproven treatments, including cod liver oil and the steroid budesonide, which is used to treat asthma and Crohn's disease.

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Most children do recover from measles, regardless of whether they're given cod liver oil. The fatality rate of measles is nearly 1 to 3 in 1,000 children, who die with respiratory (e.g., pneumonia) or neurological complications from the virus, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

of course anti-vaxxers use pseudoscience to treat illnesses. cod oils can cause diarrheal issues if you consume too much.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

"i don't even like my kids"

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