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Sam Beard, organizer of Luigi Mangione’s legal defense fund, claims the dramatic “perp walk” resembling Hannibal Lecter’s treatment backfired on New York authorities, boosting donations to over $743,000.

Mangione, charged with murder and terrorism for allegedly killing UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, received heightened security during extradition, drawing public sympathy.

Critics argue the campaign glorifies violence, while supporters emphasize fair trial rights.

Mangione, who pleaded not guilty, faces the death penalty if convicted.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

This image is so ridiculous. Like he’s a danger so much that it took a platoon of people to parade this dude in cuffs. He allegedly killed one dude, he didn’t EAT the guy. It was blatantly obvious for everyone that this was a show of force, and it ironically makes them look weak as fuck.

You want me to respect your strength? Go put handcuffs on Trump. The rule of law is broken. The weak suffer the most and the rich pay to stay out of it.

I’m not a violent man. A death of another human is a complicated introspection for most people. Then there are others who don’t even consider the value or even a difference in perspective. Luigi is not some psychopath. Allegedly, he deliberately chose impact at the highest level he could. The representation of a broken and predatory system. It’s not ok that faceless entities who aren’t doctors can choose the life and death choices over the recommendations of doctors.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

He killed one dude,

Stop saying this shit.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 19 hours ago

Thank you! Everyone has been saying this and it's so cop-brained that it's frustrating.

They have not proven that he killed anyone. He is innocent until proven guilty. When you accept that he actually did anything before he is convicted, you are aiding the police's and prosecutor's job by making the assumption that arrest = guilt.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 21 hours ago

Yep. He didn't do anything. Innocent into proven guilty.

If you want to be accurate, he was the primary suspect of the CEO shooting.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Why, is the court going to use random Lemmy comments as evidence?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

It's about being factual. Let's not make this Reddit 2.0 with bs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

Also yes. Reddit is terrible at decided how crimes must have happened from an AP article with nothing but the main people's names.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Reddit is where the wackos who will cancel you for suggesting any hint of "guilt" are! How is this any different? You can think the guy did it without believing he is guilty of murder or manslaughter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

I think you both have a point.

[–] caseyweederman 3 points 18 hours ago

Why, are you in favor of spreading misinformation?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Police in the US don't investigate killings, they find a person they feel comfortable pinning it on, and hope the trial works in their favor. We really don't know if this guy is the guy who shot someone, and NYPD has a long history of picking the wrong person to accuse based on their bias and not on facts or evidence. There's every possibly he's actually, in fact, innocent. So far all we've been told offically is largely circumstantial.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

That is what gets me, all these people who need guns and such to feel strong and tough. The pirates did that. The purpose of the Jolly Roger was to instill fear, but ultimately they wanted the other ship to surrender quickly and without a fight. Pirates were all about show to make victims be afraid of them. But ultimately they were just men in poor health.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 18 hours ago

It's like they keep forgetting he is handsome

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

These government gooners literally cannot comprehend why people live this guy and hate them. It'd be funny if it wasn't so irritating that these are the assholes in charge.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago

Counterpoint: They know exactly why people love him and why they are hated.

It's time for a revolution.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It also helps that Luigi looks fine af. Like not even kidding I’m sure that’s a big part of the support too lol.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

I agree. Lemmy seems unable to grasp this. He looks like a super nice, ordinary guy that you'd like to hang out with.

He probably is, but what about all the other people who don't look like him? No one talks about jury nullification for their cases.

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[–] [email protected] 141 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

“It’s horrible when anybody has their life cut short by another person, especially when it could have been prevented,” Beard says on Luigi. “But the same logic has to apply both ways, right?

“Preventing people from getting the healthcare that they need – that you and your company have access to and could provide them, but don’t do so because it would threaten your business model – that’s an act of violence, too,” Beard says.

Hello based department, we got a candidate here for you.

"Luigi" in reference to the name of his podcast not the person Luigi Mangione

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Not just the healthcare they need, but also healthcare that they pay for.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Given the success He should start his Presidental run right now. ( I want at least to see this movie )

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Ya know, a certain citizen gone president recently employed the tactic to avoid persecution for his crimes.... Can we drag the Mangione case another 3 ish years so Luigi can declare for presidency? Then (based on precedent) his case has to stall until after the election.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

A president once said “ I could shoot someone on fifth Ave. and not lose any votes”

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

I want to see a gun duel between Luigi and Trump. We can put together an Old West stage town, and let it play out.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

turns out, it's a pretty good campaign move.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Turns out it only matters who he shoots.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

for the left; yes. for the right: there are better and worse targets, but it's the suffering that matters.

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[–] [email protected] 176 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, I pretty much supported him the moment it was clear that the CEO toppled over from a pre-existing condition called "being vulnerable to lead projectiles."

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Only 9mm too, what a nerd. Back in my day, we were expected to have built up an immunity to 9mm by high school.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

According to RFK the best way to get immunity is for everyone to cop a 9mm lead projectile, instead of using any form of preventative measure.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

honestly, coddling the human body about gun shots is making us weak as a people. we'll never get over this pandemic of gun violence if we keep natural compensatory measures from kicking in.

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[–] [email protected] 204 points 1 day ago (3 children)

His treatment caused about . 02% of the support for him.

United Heaths treatment of the rest of us caused the rest.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I support him even if he's innocent.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Well, also the fact that he looks literally nothing like the dude from the security camera stills, the police have been bungling every single step of the evidence process since before they "caught" Mangione, annnd finally all the work theyve done to preprejudice the public into thinking he did it by organizing documentaries demonizing Mangione while being too busy to provide the details of their "evidence" to Mangione's legal council (which they are legally obligated to do!)

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Exactly, if he allegedly murdered the CEO of an organization that doesn't profit from the death and destruction of it's customers then the public reaction would be completely different regardless of any perp walk PR stunt.

For profit insurance glorifies violence, not resisting it

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[–] [email protected] 226 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Who would'a thunk cops are really bad at reading the room?

[–] [email protected] 134 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Okay guys, we've got an attractive man with a huge amount of public support behind him regardless of guilt. How can we not turn him into a martyr?"

"Hannibal Lecter walk?"

"Yeah that won't backfire at all!"

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

Cops will shoot your dog for barking then wonder why people think they’re assholes

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[–] [email protected] 123 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The optics the recently indicted (and later hastily pardoned) mayor being one of the guys perp walking the sympathetic suspect probably didn't help them either.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

What they don't seem to realize is that Mangione himself isn't all that important. Whether they kill him or successfully vilify him, in a few years people won't be thinking about the man himself all that much. Their continued hardship will be what they think about, and as long as it's the capital class's fault, the anger will keep growing.

[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

This isn’t about a man anymore. It’s about an idea.

I hope the jury nullifies the charges, but he’s become a symbol for the common people of America because he acted on the fury and frustration that hundreds of millions of us feel. You can’t really kill an idea once it gains hold in the minds of that much of the populace.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago (12 children)

The shooter is immortal with or without Luigi. The shooter showed us they bleed and they’re scared and stumbling now to stay in control.

They have to sit and marinate with their mortality now. It scares them knowing they aren’t that different from us

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

critics as in boomers, and politicians.

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