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Fund managers quietly fear Trump doesn’t have a tariff plan and that he ‘might be insane’
(www.independent.co.uk)
He has concepts of a plan.
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Get loud you pricks.
It’s important to the world to drop the “quietly” bit.
The US administration is behaving erratically and irrationally. This isn’t a punchline to some smug joke, it has important repercussions for world trade and defence needs.
Let’s cut the conspiracy theories about how they are doing this for graft, and the unfounded “4d chess” approaches. Some people in the administration may be trying to steer the government in these ways, but the captain of the ship is an unleashed chaos monkey surrounded by sycophantic yes-men.
The tariffs could double tomorrow or be gone tomorrow. The US could invade Greenland with a military force tomorrow or drop it completely move onto some shiny new idiocy.
We in the rest of the world need to move with urgency in order to be prepared for the worst. This is a tall task, so the longer we keep these admissions quiet the longer we are vulnerable
Let’s cut the conspiracy theories about how they are doing this for graft, and the unfounded “4d chess” approaches.
He is doing it for a grift, it's pretty out in the open. You're right about the 4d chess though. That's his thing, think like a stupid mob boss that only does it for the grift. He thinks they owe him a favor now.
Link to video: https://nitter.net/MorePerfectUS/status/1910340290260463771#m
Video of Trump Bragging About Enriching His Billionaire Pals Draws Outrage
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Really? What was their first clue?
If only we had 4 years of this exact behavior to judge him by to predict he may act like this.....
8 years. He didn't stop misbehaving after he was out of office.
I mean, by that metric, we've got decades of evidence
Somewhere a New Yorker is saying 70 years because this shitwad has been the same since he was in diapers.
He only got more insane during the stretch from 2020-2024. The insanity was on full display during the 2024 race. I don't understand what's wrong with our electorate.
I don’t understand what’s wrong with our electorate.
brain damage im pretty sure.
We joke but that's real- measurable, and studied. Leaded gasoline was only phased out in the '90s. This is not a joke. Everyone born before the 90s in the United States has actual measurable mental problems due to being poisoned by THE AIR for the majority of their youth. This likely includes both of us. Source https://acamh.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jcpp.14072
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Does he know what a recession is? Genuinely asking. That would help understand this response.
His experience of the last couple of recessions has probably been:
- "The Markets, Politicians and Press do a lot of noise whilst poor and working people have to be squeezed even more whilst the Government makes sure rich people don't lose any wealth and at the end of it we the rich are making even more money than before"
I mean, all that it takes is to look at the changes in wealth of the top 1% of the population compared to the rest in the aftermath of the 2008 Crash.
From his point of view a recession is a good thing because it and subsequent measures by the Government and Central Bank makes him even more money than "normal" times. Sure, it's on the backs of the riff-raff, but who cares about the riff-raff when they're so easy to lead by the nose?!
If he does it was explained to him repeatedly through a TV with lots of pictures
What do they mean by might be
seriously.
Did no one pay attention to his first term?
Hes an emotional, hyper-reactionary infant throwing levers to provoke reactions and to punish those who dare do anything but praise the glorious kissableness of his orange painted ass.
Theres no deep thought to it.
There is no 4d interdimentional chess moves.
There is no thinking.
There is just a monkey throwing shit for his own amusement.
He has that extremely annoying teenage boy need to pretend to be a badass, due to a massive insecurity complex and constant fear.
The problem is he's an extremely entitled, privileged, and spoiled manchild whose daddy made him feel like he was worthless, and weak his entire childhood if he didn't act as if he wasn't a "Real Man," and a "Killer" in business. He's never matured emotionally beyond that. He has the mind of a frightened child.
And here we are, with him as the most powerful individual in the world. Fat Baby Jeebus help us.
Just look at how he posed with that bullshit "hard" face for both his mug shot and for his stupid photo that we now have to see hanging everywhere in official buildings.
For that mug shot they should have mussed up his hair and otherwise thrown him off and then snap the photo and capture the true essence of the man-baby.
explains why he gets on so well with Elon.
another emotionally stunted perpetually edgy wannabe teenager.
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What about the "marxist" Kamala Harris? We were told if she got in there'd be an immediate downturn. The cope is just to say either Biden goofed up so hard that's why we are down OR it would have been worse under a democrat. This administration and its supporters have lots and lots of excuses.
Q: How do you know Trump is lying?
A: He opens his mouth.
What they mean is this:
"We spent a fortune to put this fuckin puppet in power, we had to work with every other sleezebag nation with the will to subvert democracy so we could get our golden-idol worshipped by the country's stupidest peasants so we could deregulate the whole world via force if necessary, but it turns out the clown is so stupid he's listening to the morons around him and not just our orders and now the market is crashing and the wrong people are profiting!"
So we're doing the 25th and then have tariffs on couches?
I know it's fun to circle-jerk around these headlines, but it's a misdirection to give lay-people something titter about because it's too difficult to explain what's really happening. His behaviour actually is rational, he's just an idiot.
For Trump's entire life, the US stocks/bonds markets have mapped closely to market greed/fear respectively. When the market gets spooked, they turn to more conservative investments, and US bonds have historically been that. (Government bonds are typically seen as the least risky investment, because it's unlikely that a country falls apart and fails to pay its debts).
Fast forward to today, the US has a bunch of debt that needs refinancing this year, and lately, we haven't been getting good interest rates on our bond sales (which indicates people are seeing US bonds as more risky than usual). So Trump said, "no problem, we just need to instill a bit of fear in the market to drive investors to bonds, which will cause the interest rate to drop, so we can refinance our debt at a better rate." So he announces a bunch of nonsensical tariffs, which tanks the stock market, and just like he expected the bond market saw a dip in interest rates......for about a day, followed by a sharp increase! That sharp increase is why Trump agreed to pause the tariffs. Not only did it not work how he thought, it would seem he exposed a pronounced decline in trust for the US' ability to pay its debts. Instead of running to US bonds, investors ran everywhere else (gold, the Swiss Franc, the Euro, etc.)
I don't know what his next move is, but I have to think he's feeling a bit desperate. He's going to probably try to up his "blame the Democrats for their spending" game, of course without acknowledging that he has also only increased spending (even with all of DOGE's hard fought, and definitely not half-baked, budget cuts).
But all his strategies seem to be overt market manipulation, and nothing else. I feel like it really highlights the difference between someone who can create actual value using intelligent planning and innovation, and someone who is a capitalist leech who has fooled themselves into thinking that buying low and selling high does something useful for someone.
That still feels like too much thought/reasoning for him. I could see some other idiot connecting those dots and convincing Trump it was his idea. Or just Putin trying to crash the economy.
I can guarantee you have put way more thought into this than he ever has, or will.
His true masters have put more thought than that into it. They just can't control him to the extent they thought. But it's mostly working out for them.
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I... respectfully disagree.
Every time I've made the mistake of thinking these idiots have some deeper plan I inevitably learn that there is in fact no plan.
Trump is old. He was desperate to get elected so he didn't die in jail. He achieved that by promising to deport brown people, be mean to poor people, and implement tariffs. He's doing those three things.
As regards the tariffs, he's a kid kicking an ants nest to watch everyone scurry around. It pleases him greatly to be able to make some stupid post on truth social and watch the earth tilt on it's axis.
He implemented the tariffs because he said he was going to and the yes-ken's and yes-barbi's told him "yes that would be amaze".
You're right, the bond market is what ultimately spooked him. When the interest rate volatility started climbing someone staged an intervention and told him how serious it was. He basically said that in the presser when he said people were getting twitchy or whatever he said.
However, there's still no plan. That's the only explanation for the on again off again flip flop don routine.
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"Might"?
It's warranted. He might be insane or he might be insider trading and enriching himself and friends with his actions.
My non-existent money is on the latter.
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Let me guess?
....but supported him because they wanted the tax cuts and any side effects of having monsters like the qons in charge they thought would pass them by...
No shit, Sherlock.
An insane man surrounded by amoral, self-serving handlers and white supremacists.
Let me tell you, it’s really god damn annoying seeing people just now have “epiphanies” about shit a lot of us have known for decades now.
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A callback to his healthcare reform- the man has the concepts of a plan. Somehow that doesn't deter his voters
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Why are they feeling this way quietly?
Because if they’re too loud Trump will hear and drag them to El Salvador.
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Trump does in fact have a tariff plan and has had it for years. He uses tariffs to crash and recover the market for insider trading. These fuckers need to all be in jail. Since the justice system in non functional then US citizens should probably defend themselves from this economic terrorism in ... other ways.
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I quietly fear that fish doesn’t have a tariff plan and that they might be swimming.
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