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Trump has suggested that "homegrown" criminals who have been convicted of certain crimes should be deported, but the idea raises significant legal questions.

If an immigrant who the government claims is a gang member can be deported to El Salvador without any due process rights, then why not a U.S. citizen?

That was the nightmarish scenario immigration advocates and constitutional law experts were considering on Monday after Donald Trump again pushed a provocative plan to deport U.S. citizens who have been convicted of unspecified crimes.

Trump discussed the issue in the White House with El Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele, who has agreed to deposit people deported from the U.S. into a notorious prison.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

Oh and who is going to stop him and the administration? Not the party in power and not the pathetic opposition party.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago

He’s done a lot of obviously illegal things. One might even say he’s become accustomed to not being held accountable for doing illegal things.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You cannot "deport" U.S. citizens to El Salvador or any other country. You can, however, kidnap and exile them. Let's respect language, oh great media overlords.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

Your request has been denied.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 hours ago

Since when has "obviously illegal" ever stopped him.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

Pretending that the law matters during a fascist coup is not productive.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

He also thinks it’s a crime to disagree with him. There will be lots of people being deported shortly before midterms.

[–] floofloof 9 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Ah, but Democrats will fight back by (1) pointing out that it's against the rules, (2) waiting for him to acknowledge his error and apologize, and (3) voting for their own imprisonment.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Its really depressing that all the "resistance" we can offer is to pout and go "BUT THATS ILLEGAL" while our supposed opposition party votes to confirm every nominee and pass every barbaric bill by this admin...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

The opposition needs to be talking about a general strike.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago

We're almost certainly fucked. It is depressing.

[–] Snowstorm 5 points 8 hours ago

What’s the next chapter in this story? Some hackers leak the personal info of all ICE grunts and they gets involved in all kind of accidents? In the last century, in Germany, moderates got declared undesirable anyway so now that they have a chance to organize beforehand. Some states ban ICE altogether and becomes safe havens? It’s easy being mesmerized and keep on with “but that’s illegal” , do something else happen? A few millions angry Americans can’t all fit in a 40000 person prison.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

It's OBVIOUSLY Illegal? Dang! That's going to STOP our Law And Order President!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago

Trump is a relic of a system that already died in 1-1-2000. 9-11 was a final attempt to enforce the 20th century Rockefeller economy. The system has collapsed. We had 25 years to adapt. Oh right and this article is about another loop in the law attempt.