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[–] [email protected] 13 points 22 hours ago

Stupidest idiot in the history of stupid. It's like he learned a new word and it's stuck in his head and all he can say is tarrif, tarrif, rarifffFfffFffs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

If he is so certain it will work why isn't he ending income tax right now?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

Exactly whenever I see some rightiod say this shit I'm just like why didn't he completely eradicate income taxes as apart of the tarrifs if that's how they work

[–] melsaskca 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump got caught knowing nothing about tariff's when on a finance news show. Trump said to the interview guy "No! You know nothing about tariff's!". Since then he has gone all in on the tariff's he knows nothing about because he does not want to admit he was a fool.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

No at this point it's so we'll known that Peter Navarro just lied and created fake experts to make his bullshit tariff theories seem more sane.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago

These guys are just such assholes.

How sick do you have to be to shift all the burden on to the people that have the least?

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Of course he would. It would be a massive shift of taxation towards the middle class and especially the lower classes, and on top of that, he personally gets to decide who gets to pay and who doesn't; how much and when, and especially why or why not.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

On top of the continual shift of taxation towards the middle and lower classes we’ve had since Reagan.

The “good old days”the Republicans want to go back to were only good in the sense that the top tax rate was 90% and the rich paid something much closer to their fair share, and the middle class was able to actually have comfortable lives. But they want everyone other than them to be on the brink of economic ruin at all times so that they are more easily controlled.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Absolutely. It's as if they had declared that life in America was much better in the 50s, and the lesson they learned was that it wasn't possibly because of the economic policies of the post-war era, but because of the bigotry and racism and xenophobia.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Yes it’s all connected to racism and sexism.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

It's the main tentpole of Project 2025.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

But George Santos did.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So it is a tax on the people with out any representation. Seems like there was something like this in the past the North Americans dealt with

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Time to start throwing big macs in the harbor?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

At least the tea was biodegradable.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Now I'm no economician, but isn't this like saying "we'll replace writing class with origami class?"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (10 children)

No, replacing income tax with tariffs isn't basically the same thing. It's worse. It is replacing a progressive tax (one that is easiest on lower wage earners and gets higher with income levels) to a regressive tax (one that more greatly effects lower wage earners than higher) because lower wage earners have to spend most or all of their income for survival, while high income earners regularly use their surplus money for things unaffected by tariffs, like investments, property, travel, etc.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago

*affects. What you wrote - that it effects low income earners - means the opposite, that it enables them.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's more like Trump saying "we'll replace taxes on me with taxes on you."

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is like the $5,000 stimulus checks Elon talked about and that "concept of a plan" from 2016. He knows his base doesn't want to pay taxes, so if he references the possibility to get rid of them, they will keep holding on and later he can just blame the libs for it never happening.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Sadly, the "concept of a plan" line was from last year. :/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

Maybe if we stopped wasting so much of our money on "defense" spending

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I almost say do it, triple-double-multiplier tariff added on everything! From water to bathroom visits to minutes of watched television, sodas to butter, corn to newspapers, even icecubes must not escape tariffs to make the country great again...
Then I give it 6 months, after which I suspect personal hells will open up...

Say, what about sales taxes eh? Seems those remain, hmm, so it's actually a tariff on top of taxes?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sales taxes are state/city level taxes, there are no federal sales taxes (yet). But he is essentially using the tariffs as a way to enact sales taxes without really adding a sales tax.

With the tariffs he can add a massive tax on the people which Republicans would normally be very much against, but he can say it is about being pro American and most of them forget about all of the extra money they will be paying.

This shifts the tax burden further onto middle/lower income homes and lets him give more income tax cuts to higher earners without increasing the deficit so much that congress would turn on him.

The Republicans have actually been talking about this for a long time they called it the "fair tax". Their fair tax plan was basically a flat ~23% federal sales tax that would replace income tax, but they could never get their base behind it.

Someone on Trump's team realized that we buy so much from other countries that he could accomplish the same thing the fair tax aimed to do via tariffs while selling them to his party as "buy American". His lower/middle income base eats that up, and his campaign donors see it as killing their overseas competition.

If it weren't for the other countries reciprocating it would have been a good plan for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Sales taxes are state/city level taxes

Many other countries have them at the national level too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You know the last time tariffs got out of control here we threw some tea in the bay.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This time it’ll be teslas. Teaslas?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

I think Boston knows what they need to do. have a tesla party.

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