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[–] danielquinn 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Honestly, this feels a little gross.

Too many people just spent the last 5 weeks demanding that everyone "hold their nose and vote Liberal to keep the Conservatives out", knowingly cratering support for the smaller parties, and now you turn around and are all like "we have to work together"?

Fuck. That.

We have common cause, but if the Liberals were serious about working together they would have embraced proportional representation. They didn't. They wanted domination, campaigning hard in Green & NDP ridings and even with the #ElbowsUp anti-Trump wave, Canadians still didn't want to trust them with a majority. It's not the role of the smaller parties to prop up the neoliberal "shit lite" party, it's to force them to do right by the country. I expect them to do that.

[–] Sunshine 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I completely agree the liberals wanted all the seats for themselves while acting like they deserve 100% of the power with only 42% of the vote while the smaller parties pulled out of some to avoid splitting the vote.

In a better world the liberals and conservatives would only receive 49% of the vote at most so they're forced to stop doing the bidding of corporations and oligarchs without question.

[–] kent_eh 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I completely agree the liberals wanted all the seats for themselves

It's an election. What party doesn't want that??

[–] Rentlar 0 points 1 day ago

I'm sitting here waiting for the Bloc Quebecois to run in Vancouver.

[–] Rentlar 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Canadians still didn't want to trust them with a majority.

I don't have the same read as you on this point specifically. 43% and 42% (for Cons) are both majority earning popular vote numbers in Canada, but it did mean that there was more support for the Liberals instead of the NDP overall (up from 33% in 2021). You can talk about held noses but Carney was viewed as a legitimately competent leader for our time of crisis and people voted accordingly. There were a lot of instances of Conservatives winning due to split votes in Southwest Ontario that was the main thing keeping them from a majority government.

I do think with the NDP wielding the balance of power, it is indeed a good idea to push for abolishing FPTP among many progressive reforms, but we don't have to commit to PR or bust from the start.

My point is: The shitty electoral system that keeps the Liberals in, is also the one that kept them out of majority territory this time.

[–] danielquinn 1 points 1 day ago

Um, 43% isn't a majority under any electoral system, and that number definitely represents a significant "strategic" vote, evidenced by way of the multiple strategic voting sites and endless posts on social media begging people not to "throw their vote away".

So this is objectively not a majority, but I fully expect Carney and his supporters to act as though it is. The job of the remaining smaller parties then is to remind him.

[–] cyborganism 4 points 1 day ago

This belongs in /c/ehbuddyhoser lol