this post was submitted on 09 May 2025
910 points (98.7% liked)

Comic Strips

16452 readers
3478 users here now

Comic Strips is a community for those who love comic stories.

The rules are simple:

Web of links

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

I have bought a "starter" cartridge inkjet, a "premium“ AIO inkjet, and (supposedly) one-of-the-better-ones monochrome laserjet. All of them gave me nothing but grief. I used to think this was an accepted loss with the entire printing landscape, that it's a problem of the domain itself.

Turns out it was because I had always bought HP.

The last final printer I bought is a Brother inktank. It is not without its quirks, granted, yet I have never felt so easy.

God knows how much of a grief stricken, pain inducing, blood boiling, poisoned my life was– because HP. Once I switched to a different vendor, a burden of sorts was lifted.

i have had a total of 5-6 products in my lifetime from HP, and I'm pretty sure each one has easily taken out years from my life expectancy.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

My advice, since as others have said inkjets are trash: If you only need to print something every so often, use your local library. Easier if you live close to one, and still a hassle loading it on a thumb drive, but to me it’s easier than having a printer taking up space in my home.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

And if you want to print photos, get it done at a lab. It'll cost more or less the same or even be cheaper, and come out much better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

I've been doing this for over a decade now. I don't use a thumbdrive though, I just email myself the thing I need to print. Go to library computer, log in to email, print right from there. Each page is 10 cents at my local branch.

Also, a lot of libraries will provide you with a "guest pass" so you can use the computers even if you don't have a library card. 10/10 highly recommended.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Living in Japan and being able to walk a block over to the convenience store when I need to print something every few months is the greatest daily life I've ever had with a printer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

This came in handy for me, I dropped my phone there last time I was there on holiday, my screen shattered and I couldn't get a QR code to scan, luckily the staff at the combini helped me print it out, god knows what they thought seeing a panicked Scotsman trying to translate through Google 😄

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago

I have to press "keep on printing" on my printer for months now and every print is fine. This is just disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Get an ecotank printer

I have am epson ecotank and they actually make money on the printer instead of the ink, you fill the ink into tanks on the printer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 19 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

*Goes through and upvotes all the comments about getting a Brother laser printer*

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

If you need an ink jet, I can also recommend the Epson L3260 ink tank. You pay a bit more for the printer but the ink is fairly reasonable.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I had to print maybe 3 times in the last 10 years and just used one of those coin operated printer things. Does anyone still print that much to justify owning a printer?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago

Yes. But I use a cheap Brother laser printer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

Anyone ever tried to assemble a compute cluster from these?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Why is it the cyan that's low in the comic? It's always fucking yellow that they scream about.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago

If I recall correctly it always screams about yellow because many printers print microscopic dots that make a code allowing law enforcement to ID the printer

[–] [email protected] 124 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Love my Brother black and white laser printer.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

It is important to point out that it isn't the brand that makes it good, it is the fact that it is laser.

I used to have a Brother "multi function center" printer/scanner/photocopier/fax that used inkjet and it was pure asshole design. Wasting expensive ink just by remaining plugged in and refusing to do anything if one cartridge was low on ink (but was actually still half full)

But if I had to single out a brand that should absolutely be avoided for printers it is HP. They do asshole DRM to a whole new level. They bricked a brand new ink cartridge because I didn't put it in properly at first.

Now I have a laser printer and the nightmare is finally over.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

It doesn't surprise me, I feel like I'm navigating a labarynth trying to reset the drum/toner count on my brother printer. It feels like they have the framework in place to make laser just as bad as inkjet brands.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (11 children)

With my old brother inkjet, it would say it was out of ink in like 2 weeks because it used an optical sensor on the printer looking through a window on the ink cartridge at aimed at a floating piece of black plastic in the tank that would drop when the ink level went down.

The thing is, the sponge in the cartridge would soak up the ink and cause the floater to drop when there was still like 90% of the ink left.

So the key was to just put some black electrical tape over the window on the cartridge and keep using it until it actually stopped printing that color.

load more comments (11 replies)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

All inkjet printers have to waste ink when they are not in use. Otherwise the ink in the print head dries out and clogs it up. Inkjet printers are the worst possible choice for infrequent use.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (7 replies)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Mate, they sold you a printer that prints white?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Had to pay twice as much for two colors but it was worth it!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago

Well, if it would only print black, you could not see the text!

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Also note that printers come with a smaller cartridge. Buying another printer isn't cheaper, even if it costs less.

[–] skisnow 5 points 15 hours ago

This is true, and yet somehow when I buy the "XL" sized cartridges they don't feel like they lasted much longer than the "S" size that came with it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

it is if you only print rarely

[–] [email protected] 11 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

The key is to buy a brother laser printer

It’s black and white but most people rarely have a need for color. Meanwhile, the toner doesn’t dry out like an inkjet printer will

You buy that one $150 inkjet printer and you’re set.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

I bought a secondhand Brother printer from ~20 years ago for $20, with toner and drum all set, and it works flawlessly on modern systems. They even still keep the official page with the drivers and the stock of replacement parts is readily available should I ever need them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

Swear to god old inkjet printer don't let the ink dry out. My old HP printer works fine with refills and I print like 3-4 times each year. Never had any ink dry out. I'm convinced they purposefully made later printers dry it out on purpose. Problem is that "later" was like 15 years ago or smth.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

My only regret about buying a brother laser printer is that I didn't get one much sooner. I love it!

[–] [email protected] 33 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

I will throw this idea into the ether and hope someone with more time, knowledge, and talent than me builds on it: swap the brains of an HP Printer with a raspberry pi. All the motors and wiring are in place, and HP sells the printer for cheap to screw you on ink and software. You'd probably want a new source of ink and a way to refill the cartridges to fully cut out HP. I feel like this would get you pretty close at an affordable price.

The whole world wants the Linux version of a printer, we just need a couple people to get together and figure this out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Inkjet cartridges are only refillable a handful of times before components wear out if you don't screw up the refill in the first place. I used to work at an ink refill franchise, it's all trash.

A decent toner printer and a small business that will refill toner for cheap is the way to go.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago

Ohh God ... That's a very, very tall order.

You wouldn't think that it's that complicated. I worked in a print-on-demand house for about 5 years, The amount of black magic fuckery that goes on between streaming data into that driver and getting stuff on the page is absolutely insane.

You're standing on the backs of like 40 years of trade secrets and poorly implemented protocols at half-assed feature sets.

And then the worst part is, HP is spent the last 20 years making the printer cheaper. Most of the inkjets don't even have steppers anymore, just DC motors and a resistive feedback ribbon.

Developing a multi-platform certified signed driver would be a pretty decent hurdle as well.

Can't we just stop printing? Change things over to black and white thermal when we really need something that's pretty easy to do.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 19 hours ago

I would love to make a living lobotomizing smart devices.

[–] tempest 27 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

The Linux version of a printer is just buy a brother color laser (or non color). I bought one for 85 bucks like 15 years ago and it still chugging along

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 21 hours ago

Someone could probably do this. But it would just be a fun project, not replicable.

You'd need to write your own printer driver. There are probably some open source libraries out there to do most of the heavy lifting, but it's still a project.

The big issue is going to be the interface between the pi and the printer's "motors and wiring". Doable, but too finicky to publish a "kit" or something for someone else to replicate. It could be worth the work if it would help other people, but I don't think that's on the table.

Honestly, I think anyone with the ability to do that would probably find it easier to just build their own printer.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Disregard inkjet printers

Acquire laser printer

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

Yup

I think the most under appreciated aspect is that ink can dry out just from sitting around. A lot of the time and “empty” ink cartridge just evaporated off its solvents

Toner lasts forever. Perfect for occasional use

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

Fuck you, HP

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Governments need to sue more companies for the environmental and resource damage they do with irresponsible business models like this. Get that money Mr. Government. It's laying on the floor for you to pick up.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›