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I'm looking for a new instance since lemm.ee is closing by the end of the month. What's a good instance to be on these days?

I'm looking for a instance with the fewest trolls, bots, and anyone that likes to take things to the extremes.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

Depends; Closest thing to lemm.ee? Maybe lemmy.zip?

Here's my own choices:

  • lemmy.dbzer0.com (totally unbiased ๐Ÿ˜)
  • lemmy.zip
  • quokk.au (not lemmy, piefed)
  • sopuli.xyz

Dbzer0 and zip are probably the closest thing to lemm.ee in terms of defederation.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Can lemmy use a different subdomain for authentication?

Unless it does, lemmy.zip is behind cloudflare and all of the passwords are going through a different entity, whether users like it or not.

I would rather not.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Problem isn't so much defederation policy in and of itself, as much as it is just the general level-headedness of the admins

Lemm.ee's lead admin had exactly the type of philosophy towards managing this platform that I want to see in wherever I go next.

This post alone is what convinced me to create a primary account there. It's professional, level-headed, nuanced, well spoken, and you can tell they've actually thought a lot about the big picture in an unbiased way. Not aggressive, preachy, standoffish, snarky, snobbish, and above all, not reactionary. Seeing the instance as infrastructure is what I want to see more of, but I also just want to see admins with this attitude overall.

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately that philosophy led them to close down their instance due to burnout, so maybe it's not exactly a winning one ๐Ÿ˜…

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I beg you, please take care of yourself if it's needed, take time off, relax, get help from others. I think you have a philosophy to not take money out of the donations, but speaking as one of the contributors, I think that's unfair considering the amount of work you put in.

What I'm saying is just do what it takes to not let it lead to burnout. I don't think anyone that understands the value of this instance would mind.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

I'm not close to burnout but thanks for the concern. I don't run my instance like lemm.ee does for a reason ;)

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Seeing the instance as infrastructure is what I want to see more of

Yes, exactly! A good manager to me is the one that is just focused on solving the problems that are on the way of the rest of the team.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Fingers crossed, but we also know Lemmy might not be ready for that type of philosophy. I mean I still don't know what exactly happened, but lemm.ee wasn't successful in the end. And the underlying issues are still there. So the next admin team might face the same dynamics.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

+1

I picked dbzer0 myself.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Any website or service that utilizes the .zip TLD ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ

I'm sure there are great websites and services that utilize it, but I have a strong opinion that the TLD should have never been put out there for people to use. I block all .zip TLD domains with no exceptions; and so unfortunately, I cannot use lemmy.zip.

To be fair, I have no real opinions about lemm.ee. It was one of the instances that had the most users when I joined Lemmy, and as far as I'm aware it hasn't received any real negative press.

I'm more bothered about seeing or being associated with spam and/or an instance full of toxic people. I'm not a spicy person - or so I'd like to think.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Iโ€™m more bothered about seeing or being associated with spam and/or an instance full of toxic people. Iโ€™m not a spicy person - or so Iโ€™d like to think.

Zip's a very trustworthy instance, all admins know about it; so i doubt anything wrong will happen in that regard ๐Ÿ˜‰

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

is the TLD just aesthetically unpleasing or are there technical issues with zip archive files? Curious to know how one can judge one TLD over others just b/c I've never really thought ab it until now

[โ€“] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Just gonna pitch in here, but I'm no expert. I was reading people's reactions when that TLD was introduced, and they raised concerns over the possibility that a bad actor could spoof an address that actually downloads a .zip file to your device when you click the link, even though you may assume it's an address to a page. No idea what a hypothetical virus could do from a compressed environment, but thats what I remember reading.

Sorry to any experts if I'm muddying the waters with a dumb take!

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Wikipedia also offers some (limited) information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.zip_(top-level_domain)

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Yeah that's the exact reason why I dislike the .zip TLD, and the same goes for .mov. The TLDs can be easily abused to look like something they're not to trick people into visiting their website that downloads something malicious.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If you saw ChromeUpdate202506.zip, then what do you believe it is? A downloadable update for Chrome or a website?

What if a malicious person has purchased that domain and filled the website with something malicious, a virus, an info stealer, etc?

I block the .zip TLD because the domains can be used maliciously. Within the first few days there were hundreds/thousands of domains registered with names to look like zip files for updating software and the like.

I also block the .mov TLD for the exact same reason.

Sure on a good day you can spot the malicious intent from a mile away, but I like to protect for when I'm having a bad day. I also block the TLDs for the whole family as well because unfortunately they're not as tech savvy or meticulous.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

could just let only lemmy.zip and piefed.zip through and avoid the issues still

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't know the admin team at db0 can be interesting at times.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

I thought I'd be able to come with something funny but apparently I can't on the spot so no it's just a dumb reference to you being on the admin team there.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You might like https://piefed.social/.

  • Usual controversial instances (hexbear, grad, hilariouschaos...) are banned here,
  • Posts and replies with many downvotes are collapsed by default,
  • You can individually block any (whole) instance, community, users and linked domains. You can also filter the keywords,
  • Any much-downvoted user will appear with red warning sign
[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does piefed have an android app?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

There is Interstellar, which I'm using right now.

[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you ask 5 different fediverse users about their favorite instance you will get 15 different answers.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Good good. I hope that's the case. I'd prefer to see the variety of instances that people enjoy. :)

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

.world

Sh.itjust.works

Sopuli.xyz

Lemmy.cafe

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[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

lemmy.dbzer0.com

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I've had a great experience here on fedia.io. It's a smaller instance, and it is running Mbin instead of Lemmy, but everything federates over so you get the same content. Might feel a bit weird switching from Lemmy, but if you feel like it I'd recommend giving it a try. :)

We're also defederated from Hexbear, lemmy.ml, and Lemmygrad if that's a factor.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

I don't know much about Mbin. I'll have to look up what it's about

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[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My recommendation would be to find a local instance - one that's closest to you - and sign up for that. I'm not in Atlanta, but I am in Georgia, so I signed up for the yall.theatl.social instance (the server is in Atlanta), and I couldn't be happier. It's a smaller instance, but I converse regularly with the admins when I have a question or a problem, and they are accessible and always open to suggestions.

I like it so much that I also use the theatl.social Mastodon instance as my main Mastodon as well. I throw them a few bucks every month to help with costs, and I'm happy to do it.

I would agree with those who say smaller instances are the way to go.

[โ€“] darksiderbun 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah. Smaller instances for sure. Iโ€™m in Canada so I went with lemmy.ca and Iโ€™ve never had any issues and everything is just peachy ๐Ÿ˜Œ

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

I don't see a lot of the things you're trying to avoid on my instance. But I almost always browse "subscribed" and mostly have no idea what's going on in communities I'm not subscribed to.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

with the LEMMY.EE coming to an end there definitely will be multiple accts to diff instances just in case one gets offed again. definitely avoid the the triad of tankie instances, plus some that pretty political views, unless your into that kind of thing.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

try lemmy.dbzer0.com. (totally unbiased)

we have pirates, memes, and shitposts galore (ahoy, matey!)

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

.zip has the closest instance policies to .ee. A lot of .ee refugees moved there (me included). Some also moved to piefed if you're considering that.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We've opened a piefed instance too - early days yet though: piefed.zip

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Maybe dubvee? That's kind of the exact vibe we're fostering.

Site info: https://dubvee.org/site

I'm looking for a instance with...

  • the fewest trolls (they're site-banned upon discovery)
  • [the fewest] bots (see rule 2: "No fscking bots"). Some bots are allowed, but only ones that are just a human queuing up things to post on a schedule.
  • and anyone that likes to take things to the extremes (See Rule 8)

Cons are that a lot of accounts are banned (rule 8) and we don't federate with some instances: .ml, grad, hexbear, lemdroid (too much spam originates there). We're kind-of the opposite of lemm.ee in a lot of ways, so it might be a bit jarring if that's where you're coming from.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

looking for a instance with the fewest trolls, bots, and anyone that likes to take things to the extremes.

All the instances are good in their own way, but at least one will irritate you very much, and itโ€™s always different. There are ways each one can make you go โ€œwhy???โ€

There are commenters who will call one or more instances bad things. That may or may not be accurate for you.

Each large instance has one or more crazy mods, all instances mostly have decent mods. Each instance will have multiple examples about why itโ€™s good or horrible.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There are some instances far worst than others other. I think hex bear has been defederated by many for example.

And I agree with the crazies; I think it's true for any group that's large enough, regardless of platform or real world communities.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Discuss.online is pretty awesome. ๐Ÿค“

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Second this ๐Ÿ˜€

@[email protected] has been doing an awesome job of running it, and also created Sublinks as a Lemmy alternative

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

I've been pretty happy with how the instance I use has been run thus far, but it is focused around furries, so it won't be something most people outside that subculture like I expect. Still, the fandom is big enough that someone in it looking for an instance might look at this thread, so I mention it anyway.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You dont need to limit yourself to just one, feel free to diversify your presence.

But for a real answer: The smaller ones; The smaller the more respecfull they feel.

Though more users does demonstrate capabilities. Not every server is fast or stable.

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