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[–] Adderbox76 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The other side is already scouring obscure precedent to use to disqualify and deport him. So while this is great news, I won't hold my breath for any sort of actual election victory past the primary.

Going through the motions of elections right now feels very much pointless since only someone incredibly naive would think that the right has any intention of allowing elections to matter any more.

The sooner Americans realise that it's Let Them Eat Cake time the sooner they can move on with guillotine o'clock.

Peaceful protests, boycotts and sternly worded letters rely on the people you're protesting having a sense of shame. Which the right (and most of the left) no longer have.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago

Peaceful protests, boycotts and sternly worded letters rely on the people you're protesting having a sense of shame. Which the right (and most of the left) no longer have.

They can do a lot more than that - it can scare them, and that will have an effect.

At their core, Conservatives are cowards. They are literally afraid of EVERYTHING - it's their primary characteristic. They want to remain in their safe little bubble, with no changes to anything. Any changes can only bring uncertainty, and uncertainty is terrifying to them.

So when the crowds at the protests get larger and larger, week by week, they begin to realize that they are outnumbered, especially the leadership, who KNOWS they cheated to win the election, and know they don't have anywhere near the numbers on their side that they claim. They know that when the Tipping Point arrives, and the Left finally rises up, they don't stand a chance.

All they have to defend themselves is empty bluster, and they are scared shitless that we all see it, which we do. That HitlerPig/ Hegseth presser this morning is a perfect examples. Those were two frightened cowards, demanding that everybody acknowledge their empty power, and hoping nobody will realize how weak they really are.

So protests, boycotts, letter campaigns, etc. all serve to amp up their fear, and sooner or later they will do something about it. It's likely that the first reaction will be violent, but when the counter-response is crushing, and continues to be crushing, they will quickly start demanding to make a deal.

That's when we should purge MAGA once and for all. No mercy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago

You basically have to clone Mamdani to fill out all the positions he should have.

[–] [email protected] 107 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Start with the 128 Democrats who voted with Republicans to table an impeachment vote this week.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I've got one in my district. I'll be on board with all efforts going forward to replace him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 minutes ago

Me, too. Guy is a typical weak, ineffective nothing. I would vote for any strong-willed Democrat who opposed him.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago

Just be on the lookout for Sinemas hiding among the progressives.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 20 hours ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 minutes ago

I'm a Hogger.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Hoggs out for harambe

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago

Keep your Hoggs cranked

AROOOOO

[–] [email protected] 104 points 1 day ago

Primary every last one.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The best way to have a Dem win the general, is a healthy primary.

If it's not then the only way shitty Dems get out of office, is giving the seat to a Republican.

The myth that primaries hurt in the general is a lie spread by neoliberals. It's bad for them because if you compare a neoliberl to literally anyone that's not a Republican, they look like a turd sandwich.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Are you saying we shouldn’t vote blue no matter who?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

Screw blue. If everyone votes blue, no matter who, we still live in a fascist, capitalist country going down the drain because politicians would rather cash checks from their corporate masters than do what's right. We need actual reform.

Since it has to rhyme, vote progressive, not regressive?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] cecilkorik 50 points 1 day ago

Let's show them what "woke" really means. We are awake. And we see what they have been doing. And we are going to stop it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Clear out the cruft! Give us politicians we can get behind.

[–] NotSteve_ 9 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I’ve been kind of confused about this whole thing. In the US, are even mayoral elections Democrat VS Republican? What happens if more than two people want to run for mayor?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

Cities and states sometimes have different rules for different races. Cities are often so Democratic, that elections sometimes end up being between two Democrats. I've even seen Republicans register as Democrats so they have a shot at getting people just to listen to them.

Often races like judges, school boards, etc. are officially "non-partisan," but you can usually figure out which is which by their positions on the issues.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This was a primary election so both major parties were fielding several candidates. The reality is no Republican is getting elected in NYC as long as we have free and fair elections in the USA so the democratic primary winner is the most likely person to win in November when the general election is held.

You are not obligated to run under a party in US elections. It just makes it easier to win.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

My concern is that Cuomo is planning to run as an independent and my pessimism is telling me that somehow he might win. I mean no one thought Trump would win in 2016 or again in 2024, but here we are.

But the part of me that wants something to hold on to is desperately optimistic that this might be the start of the change.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Cuomo is a sex pest like Trunp so thats a big +1 for him in voters eyes /s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

If Cuomo runs independent, the democratic party loses any hope of keeping their progressive base and it might actually split entirely.

After bullying their base for the last 10 years to get in line behind their shit moderate candidates, if they were to suddenly decide that primaries don't mean anything then they'd never be able to convince progressives to vote against their interests again.

Cuomo is backed by the democratic establishment and the DNC's donor class. It doesnt matter if he's independent, he's the establishment pick and would be running with their funding.

[–] Revan343 4 points 19 hours ago

That all sounds like Cuomo is going to run independent

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If Cuomo runs as independent, I don’t think he comes close to winning but he definitely splits the vote which could push this Republican. Does the NY Mayoral race also use rank choice? If it does then evething should still be fine.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I read something yesterday that says no, it’s the usual FPTP. Only the primary was RCV.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

The primaries did

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

some thought Trunk might win in 2016 due to Celebrity Power

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

It depends on the city. Mine (Madison, WI) doesn't officially list any party affiliation for mayor or city alders. We also use a runoff election system, so we're not stuck on two parties for local things.

In practice, candidates are often backed and/or endorsed by some political parties. Common ones are Progressive Dane (county level party) or Working Families (which has national reach and is basically a socialist party working within the Democratic party). When they move up to state or federal seats, they usually join the Democrats while continuing to work with the Working Families party.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Mayoral elections like most US elections are multi-party in principle, but usually there are the two major parties and the rest are marginal or fringe. Some offices are solidly enough controlled by one party that the primary essentially determines the general election winner. Example: AOC primaried out the incumbent in a solidly Democratic seat. She then ran in a general election against a Republican and others, but none of them really mattered.

I don't know whether the NYC Mayor election is like that these days. I know NYC has had Republican mayors in living memory, like Ghouliani. Bloomberg (I just checked) did two terms as a Republican, then a 3rd as an independent on the Republican ballot line. He later ran in the 2020 presidential primaries as a Democrat.

Right now there's a situation where Andrew Cuomo (anointee of the NY and maybe even national Dem establishent) just lost the primary but might run as an independent. If the Dem establishment keeps supporting him, maybe he has winning chances. Something like that happened with Connecticut senator Joe Lieberman, who lost a Dem primary but then got re-elected as an independent with Dem party support. His opponent (Ned Lamont, now governor of Connecticut iirc) wasn't even left wing from what I remember.

For his independent run, Lieberman started a new party "Connecticut for Lieberman" and ran as its candidate. After being reelected, the new party had served its purpose and became useless to him, so he forgot about it and the incorporation documents expired. Someone else then got control of it (I guess that's like domain squatting) and apparently used it for some entertaining pranks. I wasn't around for that though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecticut_for_Lieberman

[–] NotSteve_ 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Huh, that kind of sucks to be honest. In Ontario (and I assume the rest of Canada), Mayoral elections don’t have parties involved at all. It’s just individuals and your city ward’s individual candidates. Truthfully, the candidates often have some former experience with a provincial or federal party (or at least an endorsement, but they don’t run under any party banners)

I think it makes more sense that way since local politics work a lot differently than state/provincial and higher politics.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

The whole two party system thing in general isn't really a rule per se, you're allowed to run as part of some other party or independent of one, for any office that I know of. In smaller local elections like town councils and such you can even be competitive that way. It's just that the way we do voting, most of the time, means that for any election in which a reasonable number of voters participate, only two parties can be competitive and any more would actually make their side less likely to win. It's a not originally intended side effect of the rules we use, that now serves to keep the existing parties' monopoly on most higher offices.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes, very much so. Each party has their candidate. Some states might let multiple members of the same party run, and there have certainly been instances where people have run unopposed for certain offices, but generally most elected positions in the US are partisan.

It has been a key Republican strategy for several decades now to control as many states governorship as they can manage because it allows them to do things like gerrymandering and to pass state policies that favor Republicans.

[–] NotSteve_ 3 points 1 day ago

That’s sad to hear honestly. I thought city politics would be the one place Americans could escape the two party BS