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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The closest thing you should hit to one of those is a pulsar 420dl.

Weed carts > niccy capes any day.

Especially if you got a good source on dabs so you can make you own.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

If you've got a good source of dabs, abandon the carts and get a concentrate vape like the pax 3 with concentrate adapter. The carts often have cheap heating elements with lots of nasty stuff contaminating them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Since the toxins are transmitted via the aerosols: can there something be said about the effect on involuntary "passive smokers"?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

PLEASE stop using disposable vapes.

I quit cigarettes 10 yrs ago and had been exclusively using the old school refillable box mods. The kinds with big clouds, not the nic salts. I was doing fine, great even, for the last ten.

But this past year, after picking up those disposables, I kept having breathing problems. I would stop using them for like two weeks before I picked them up again. The cycle finally led to me going into atrial fibrillation, a cardiac emergency. Had to have my heart shocked. in my 30s!

I ended up quitting nicotine entirely now. it was surprisingly easy to quit! once you wanna do it, it's already done. as long as you don't mope about it and celebrate it instead. it's easier than the whiners would have you believe!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

Wow, congratulations for quitting. And thank you for spreading the message.
Can I ask: What caused you to go from refillable box to disposable? And what is the draw to them?

[–] [email protected] 82 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

They're worse in one particular way, which isn't the most significant way that cigarettes cause harm. They're not worse overall. Vaping has been a major public-health success story, and it's odd to see people trying to discourage it with misleading headlines. The perfect is the enemy of the good here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Vaping has been a major public-health success story

WHO disapproves of electronic nicotine delivery systems.

https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/tobacco-e-cigarettes

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

They’re also a worse pollutant. Policies that favor disposable vapes over refillable ones are a travesty but ultimately disposable vapes are far more profitable for big tobacco.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 13 hours ago

And they’re talking about cheap Chinese gas station vapes here. If you use quality coils, there won’t be lead at all.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Hell yeah lead poisoning is back in vogue baby!

TL;DR, Researchers found non-safe levels of heavy metals from vapes, particularly lead and antimony. Paper states that a days use of a vape is the equivalent to 19 packs of cigarettes for lead exposure.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

No wonder young men are more stupid and violent than they have been in a long time! /s

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Are they? I was under the impression that violence has been trending downward for some time.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I included the "/s" to attempt to make clear I was being mildly sarcastic. If you're unfamiliar, it's supposed to be a reference to old HTML coding, and a slash would denote the end of a programming statement. "/s" has been shorthand for a long time for "this is the end of a sarcastic statement." Hope that helps make it make more sense!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, I got that. The mild sarcasm part. As in "I still half believe this statement but I'm saying it with a silly face for plausible deniability" sarcasm that people typically employ when it comes to topics like these

Ultimately doesn't matter but the snarky response is unwarranted

[–] [email protected] 29 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The researchers tested flavored and “clear” versions of three of the most popular products — Esco Bar, Flum Pebble, and ELF Bar — and found “excessive emissions of toxic metallic elements” in the aerosols from each of them.

All three of which are from the same company. I'm not seeing any information there about where these are manufactured, but if I guessed China, I probably wouldn't be wrong.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Are any not made there?

Eta: I'm not sure this is a manufacturer as much as a dealer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Oh yeah, that's what I meant. I'm sure they're not making them themselves. They're sourcing them from overseas somewhere for sure.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

if you're hooked on nicotine and you havent tried them, then give nicotine pouches a try. i switched to them from vaping and all the asthma went away overnight. plus no one knows when you've got one under your lip

[–] [email protected] 22 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Everyone knows when you have one under your lip

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Lol extremely untrue

[–] [email protected] 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

ok. i've never been asked to "go outside to nicotine pouch" so whatever

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago

Funniest statement I've read today 🏆

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Do they offer low-nicotine ones to wean off? Or are you just limiting yourself to oral cancers instead of oral, lung, etc.?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I find the pouches really easy to quit cold turkey, so there's not really a need to ween off once you've switched to them, but it is an option with pouches ranging from stupidly high to almost no nicotine content. It does suck for the first day not using them, but by day 3 I've completely forgotten they exist. Totally different experience quitting pouches vs a vape.

I've quit and picked up the habit several times, mainly because they're so easy to quit that I don't see a huge harm in using them again after a long period without. I wouldn't touch a vape again because it was such an effort and pain to quit.

Also nicotine isn't a carcinogen (tobacco is), and nicotine pouches are not linked to any cancer risk. Nicotine is basically as harmful as caffeine.

Nicotine products in general have been linked to reproductive harms such as stillbirth, premature birth, and low birth weight. Conversely, non-tobacco-based nicotine pouches (also known as "nic pouches") are classified as non-carcinogenic since nicotine itself is not a carcinogen. However, they are still harmful to cardiovascular health due to their nicotine content, and are associated with moderately higher risk of cardiovascular disease, stroke, and reproductive harms.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snus

Nicotine itself is currently classified as non-carcinogenic according to the International Agency for Research on Cancer, and according to the Royal College of Physicians nicotine in itself is not a hazardous drug. In turn, it is hypothesized that if nicotine can be delivered without tobacco and smoke inhalation, most, if not all of the harm of smoking can be avoided. However, if not carcinogenic, nicotine is still moderately harmful to cardiovascular health, therefore long-term use of non-tobacco nicotine pouches very likely causes higher risks for cardiovascular diseases, stroke, and reproductive harms.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_pouch

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, they do offer them in varying levels of nicotine. I decided about a month ago to stop vaping after doing it daily for 10 years. Ordered some patches and some gum, and while I was waiting on those I tried the pouches. They do work and you can get them in lower strengths to wean yourself off.

If your goal is to quit nicotine entirely, be careful that you don't just fully swap one addiction for another. I'm still working on getting off of the pouches, but it's getting better, and my lungs feel so much better now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

NRT is a scam and your addiction is the scammer. You're trying to stop poisoning yourself and you think you need a substitute for the poison! This isn't benzos we're talking about here, Nicotine has a half life of max two hours. The withdrawal is not that bad at all, it's over within four days! I just reached 87 hrs nicotine free and it was a breeze, no titration or NRT or antidepressants or anything.

JUST DO IT!!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

I think the hard part is if you're the type to crave nicotine when you're extremely stressed out. I go through cycles where I'll quit nicotine for a year or so, and then something really difficult would happen in my life and I'll start back up again.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

To help put things in perspective, the researchers compared the health risks of disposable e-cigarettes to other types of smoking, and found that Esco Bar devices released more lead during a day’s use than 19 packs of traditional cigarettes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This is salt based liquid though

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

And? The metals come from the metal components of the vaporizer itself.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 15 hours ago