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That means him first motherfucker because Trump is a birthright citizen. His grandfather was an immigrant.

Not like me is like 12 generations removed but still immigrant. Except on my mother's side that native American. But guess Trump will deport them too, because if you got technical they also are immigrants.

Its the same as the election between Obama and McCain, in ways a lot of people dont realize.

Obama, by virtue of having a non-traditional name and not being white, was hounded by birthers despite being born an American citizen clear as day with absolutely no question about it.

McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone the year before people born in the canal zone were granted citizenship at birth. Arguably he was not a citizen at birth under the definitional requirements of the constitution to be president. He was naturalized as a citizen retroactively.

Palin is part native, and was pretty heavily involved with Alaska Native movements that rejected US sovereignty and thereby rejected claims to citizenship. But no one talked about that either because shes also largely seen as just being a white American.

And yet Obama, who was American thru and thru from birth without question, never was involved with Hawaiian sovereignty movements, is the one whos citizenship was questioned.

“White makes right” is the rule of law to these people

Doesn’t “citizenship” mean where you’re born?

Only in the new world continents. In Africa, Europe, and Asia it normally means what country your parents and grandparents are from, unless someone in the chain naturalises to a different country.

The thing about ending birthright citizenship is that it would just create a stateless individual. Where would they even deport children of undocumented immigrants to? Are they going to make an El Salvadorian gulag for them too?

The former SCOTUS ruling on the 14th amendment was really clear - if you are born here, you are a citizen regardless of your parent's legal immigration status. I don't understand why the SCOTUS is even bothering to hear this case when even a constitutional literalist would have difficulty trying to weasel-word their way into a ruling that supports the Republican position on this one.

I can thing of few things more cruel than a state that looks at a literal child who was born here, lived here all their lives, speaks the language, attends school, has friends and family and a support structure and would otherwise be indistinguishable from any other American child born to American-born parents, and deport them to a country they've never set foot in for no real discernible reason other than they are anti-immigrant racists.

Most people are citizens of where they also live and give birth so this distinction doesn't come up in most cases. But for children born to immigrants or travelers it does.

Citizenship can either be assigned by where you were born, or who you were born to.

Birthright citizenship, as we use the term in the US, is mostly a new world invention. In nearly all countries in the americas, any children born here are citizens without exception. No matter the parents, no matter the circumstances.

In the old world, most countries require a parent to be a citizen in order for the child to also be a citizen.

Generally if an american couple gives birth in Europe, the child will just be american, despite where they were born. If a European couple gives birth in any of the americas, their child will be a citizen of the americas, despite anything else

You operate under the assumption that this is a public service. That would make no sense.

But if the assumption is them accumulating more power, then it makes perfect sense.

To be honest I get more mad at people being surprised by their actions. At this point it is so obvious what is happening and why. How can anyone be surprised by any of this?

"Why does this rabid dog bites? How does this make for a better world?"

It is a rabid dog, how could you ever expect something positive to begin with? Put it down already. You don't argue with crazy.

I came to that conclusion when he won the election despite his numerous crimes.

I break laws all the time now. They have no meaning. It's like the wild west now

Guilty. I've stolen 2 elections already and dogwhistled so much

As long as it doesn't immediately result in you dead or in jail.

At what point are you willing to sacrifice your life for your cause?

I'm coping so hard by hoping that we swing very hard to the left, if only just so that these cynical, fossilized assholes live to see their bullshit rulings used against them.

Billionaires and politicians. No one else matters. Don't be distracted by the broke Nazis at ICE. The true threat numbers in the hundreds.

I mean, the 2nd amendment is clearly only about militias, but you can see how that went.

I saw a person trying to all caps "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" screaming that this specific clause somehow is the piece that excludes birthright citizenship because something something loyalty to other countries?

That's what the Constitution says, and Trump now has nothing that can legally stop him from doing it.

Which means the Constitution is dead letter.

The US collapsing is going to absolutely affect the rest of the world. This is very VERY bad.