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Ford CEO Jim Farley said Chinese cars have "far superior" technology, lower costs and great quality.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 days ago (4 children)

“Huawei and Xiaomi are in every car,” Farley said, referring to two of China’s tech giants. “You get in, you don’t have to pair your phone. Automatically, your whole digital life is mirrored in the car. You have an AI companion that you can talk to … All the automatic payment is already there. You can buy movie tickets. It has facial recognition so it knows who’s in which seat and which media you like.”

It’s hard to express just how much I don’t want that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

And how inconfortable it makes that other people think this is desirable, especially people in positions of power.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

Same. It's impossible to communicate without screaming, and maybe lighting my clothes on fire.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Help. I'm convulsing.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

“You get in, you don’t have to pair your phone. Automatically, your whole digital life is mirrored in the car. You have an AI companion that you can talk to … All the automatic payment is already there. You can buy movie tickets. It has facial recognition so it knows who’s in which seat and which media you like.”

If that's not a cyberpunk privacy nightmare, I don't know what is.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm so glad the Slate truck is so simply made it can't even support a SIM card. It's the one modern car that's just a car.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Oh man. I didn't know it existed, and now I know it still doesn't. 🙁

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So basically Ford is admitting “We really have to compete again, and make GOOD products that people actually WANT. Nobody here remembers how to do that, so we’re reverse-engineering products from China.”

Great job!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You should read the article.

[–] Fjdybank 10 points 3 days ago

That's literally what the article says

Farley said he brings his whole leadership team on his trips to the country, where they drive as many of the latest cars that they can.
“Then we pick the four or five that we love and then we put them on a plane and fly them to Detroit. And then we drive the crap out of them, and then we take them apart and we put them back together,” he said.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Imagine losing to the Chinese despite all of the state aid, NAFTA, tax code and other policies being made for your industry.

American corpos got too greedy... Too much grifting... Useless "Leadership"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Don't worry they're too big to fail, they'll just get more handouts from the government. Like banning Chinese EVa

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

And remember kids, protectionism is bad (except for when we do it).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean its not like Chinese car companies got there without significant help from their government either.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Correct but the Chinese are winning, we got dicks in our hands and nothing else to show besides national debt at 100k per head

We started in stronger position too...

Where did all the money go?!?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Don't forget about cheap labor over there, economies of scale with the large Chinese market, and with a very different regulatory environment. The American auto industry has an uphill battle ahead of them.

Not to excuse the lack of innovation here, I personally blame the trend of wealth extraction for executive pay and shareholder returns at the expense of long term thinking and reduced R&D spending.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Oh 100% i agree. And we know where the money went. Just look at how many more billionaires there are these days

[–] PerogiBoi 25 points 3 days ago

And that’s why they will never be available in North America.