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CNN data guru Harry Enten broke down the latest polling in the Democratic Party on views toward Israel and the Palestinians on Wednesday and marveled at the massive shift in attitudes, declaring he’s “rarely” seen anything like it in his many years of looking at polling data.

Enten spoke to anchor Kate Bolduan in the context of Zohran Mamdani’s sweeping victory over ex-Gov. Andrew Cuomo in New York City’s Democratic Party mayoral primary last week.

"What are we talking about here? All right, who do Democrats sympathize more with: Israelis or Palestinians? In 2017, the Democratic Party was a pro-Israeli party. Look at this. They sympathized with the Israelis by 13 points—more with the Israelis than the Palestinians. But look at this sea change. Now, Democrats sympathize more with the Palestinians by 43 points.Oh my God! That is a change in the margin of 56 points over the course of just eight years. So all of a sudden, it’s the pro-Palestinian position that actually reigns supreme in Democratic politics, not the Israeli position. And that is part of the reason why Mamdani was able to do so well in this primary, because those attacks over Israel, simply put, did not ring true for Democrats"

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Genocide isnt necessarily a bad thing, depending on who is being genocided. Take Nazis and white supremacists, for example....

[–] Tiger666 1 points 44 minutes ago

Races and cultures get genocided. You don't genocide ideas. You are talking about the extermination of people who don't think like you. This is not part of the paradox of intolerance. Re-education is the only solution barring becoming the monster you are trying to destroy.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I doubt Israel and Palestine had that much of an effect on the New York city mayoral race. Just because this guy is Muslim they are making all these crazy assumptions. Frankly it seems a little racist at this point and super embarrassing to watch

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

Asking someone running for mayor about international politics seems like a real "sir, this is a Wendy's" moment.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 hours ago

Yes, committing active and rapid genocide out in the open will do that

[–] [email protected] 26 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (4 children)

I was kind of on Iseral's side in the beginning. 1200 dead for no reason?

Then I found out Iseral started murdering peaceful prostestors before Hamas came over. Fuck Iseral and their bullshit.

[–] KingPorkChop 15 points 13 hours ago

Israel has a long and fucked up history. They're like a little ADHD fucker in the playground with the huge older brother and a father as the head school administrator. No one dare punch the little fucker in the face.

Whenever someone claims they are "gods people", you're going to have a bad time.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Even Hamas tried peaceful protests in 2017 and Israel murdered them.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Are you talking about the Great March of Return? They repeatedly tried to breach the border fence under cover of the protests. Of course Israel can’t allow that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm with you on this one. What could they do but hvae their snipers target the elderly, children, and disabled? And they were being humane too! They were aiming specifically for the knees so rhat they wouldn't be killed, but just completely disabled for the rest of their lives. Honestly confused as to why Israeli leadership wasn't nominated for a Nobel peace price for that one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 46 minutes ago

Most of those killed and injured were fighters and members of militant organizations who were attacking the fence or supporting attacks on the fence by burning tires for thick smoke.

Some innocents were hurt, yes. The IDF is far from perfect.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

No about the handicapped people in wheelchairs and medics which the IDF sniped.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

It was a false flag, obvious from the first tape of the assault at the party

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

Israelis have been downpressing the Palestinians for as long as there have been Israelis and Palestinians

[–] [email protected] 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Me 3 years ago, somewhat ignorant: “I’m okay with sending bombs to Israel.”

Me, today: “I’m okay with ‘sending’ bombs to Israel.”

[–] Revan343 3 points 12 hours ago

The important difference between "send them quickly" and "send them fast"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Younger democrats...18-49....the fuck. Doing some heavy lifting with that younger phrase calling 40-50 younger 😂

[–] KingPorkChop 4 points 13 hours ago

1/2 of the people in politics in the USA remember eating woolly mammoth burgers, so there's that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

Just goes to show how up to date they are.

[–] theacharnian 10 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

What's that bullshit about Mamdani facing criticism about not being outspoken enough against antisemitism?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

They'll go on and on about antisemitism (which often is just criticism of a nation-state, so not actually antisemitism), but then it's deafening silence when it comes to racism against black people. Systemic discrimination against people of color is still alive and well in the U.S. But when have you heard this administration talk about it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Same spin on all people calling for an end of war since Netanyahu decided that being against the genocide was antisemitic.

Same shit when any individual with an even remote arabian origin needs time and again to formally condemn islamist terrorist attacks, otherwise they're instantly labeled terrorist supporters or some shit.

So be prepared to read a lot about "ambiguous position" on antisemitism because no matter what he says or does, they need to slap that label on him.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

I wonder how these people would feel when they find out "islamist terrotists" attack muslims more than any other group also.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It's probably the escalation of the genocide. If Israel were to stop committing genocide and move to reconcile and take actions to prevent it in thr future I'm pretty sure most of us would be open to reevaluating our position. Plenty of us like the modern Germany after all.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago

A non-genocidal apartheid state is still an apartheid state.

[–] [email protected] 195 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Committing genocide tends to turn the public against you.

And somehow that comment is antisemitic. Because the Nazis are Jewish now. I just want people to stop killing other people!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

plus funding and censoring protests in colleges where most of the public/voting is does that too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

A tale as old as time. The abused grow up to become the abusers.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

I just want people to stop killing other people!

hey, that's antisemitic! think of all the profits weapons companies could make, you're hurting them. what about their freedom?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (12 children)

So all of a sudden

Maybe something happened that caused the shift? Hmm, what could it be?

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