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CNN data guru Harry Enten broke down the latest polling in the Democratic Party on views toward Israel and the Palestinians on Wednesday and marveled at the massive shift in attitudes, declaring he’s “rarely” seen anything like it in his many years of looking at polling data.

Enten spoke to anchor Kate Bolduan in the context of Zohran Mamdani’s sweeping victory over ex-Gov. Andrew Cuomo in New York City’s Democratic Party mayoral primary last week.

"What are we talking about here? All right, who do Democrats sympathize more with: Israelis or Palestinians? In 2017, the Democratic Party was a pro-Israeli party. Look at this. They sympathized with the Israelis by 13 points—more with the Israelis than the Palestinians. But look at this sea change. Now, Democrats sympathize more with the Palestinians by 43 points.Oh my God! That is a change in the margin of 56 points over the course of just eight years. So all of a sudden, it’s the pro-Palestinian position that actually reigns supreme in Democratic politics, not the Israeli position. And that is part of the reason why Mamdani was able to do so well in this primary, because those attacks over Israel, simply put, did not ring true for Democrats"

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago

I doubt Israel and Palestine had that much of an effect on the New York city mayoral race. Just because this guy is Muslim they are making all these crazy assumptions. Frankly it seems a little racist at this point and super embarrassing to watch

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 hours ago

Yes, committing active and rapid genocide out in the open will do that

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (4 children)

I was kind of on Iseral's side in the beginning. 1200 dead for no reason?

Then I found out Iseral started murdering peaceful prostestors before Hamas came over. Fuck Iseral and their bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

It was a false flag, obvious from the first tape of the assault at the party

[–] KingPorkChop 11 points 7 hours ago

Israel has a long and fucked up history. They're like a little ADHD fucker in the playground with the huge older brother and a father as the head school administrator. No one dare punch the little fucker in the face.

Whenever someone claims they are "gods people", you're going to have a bad time.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago

Even Hamas tried peaceful protests in 2017 and Israel murdered them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Israelis have been downpressing the Palestinians for as long as there have been Israelis and Palestinians

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Younger democrats...18-49....the fuck. Doing some heavy lifting with that younger phrase calling 40-50 younger 😂

[–] KingPorkChop 3 points 7 hours ago

1/2 of the people in politics in the USA remember eating woolly mammoth burgers, so there's that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Just goes to show how up to date they are.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Me 3 years ago, somewhat ignorant: “I’m okay with sending bombs to Israel.”

Me, today: “I’m okay with ‘sending’ bombs to Israel.”

[–] Revan343 2 points 6 hours ago

The important difference between "send them quickly" and "send them fast"

[–] theacharnian 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

What's that bullshit about Mamdani facing criticism about not being outspoken enough against antisemitism?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Same spin on all people calling for an end of war since Netanyahu decided that being against the genocide was antisemitic.

Same shit when any individual with an even remote arabian origin needs time and again to formally condemn islamist terrorist attacks, otherwise they're instantly labeled terrorist supporters or some shit.

So be prepared to read a lot about "ambiguous position" on antisemitism because no matter what he says or does, they need to slap that label on him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

I wonder how these people would feel when they find out "islamist terrotists" attack muslims more than any other group also.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's probably the escalation of the genocide. If Israel were to stop committing genocide and move to reconcile and take actions to prevent it in thr future I'm pretty sure most of us would be open to reevaluating our position. Plenty of us like the modern Germany after all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

A non-genocidal apartheid state is still an apartheid state.

[–] [email protected] 188 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Committing genocide tends to turn the public against you.

And somehow that comment is antisemitic. Because the Nazis are Jewish now. I just want people to stop killing other people!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 26 minutes ago

plus funding and censoring protests in colleges where most of the public/voting is does that too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

A tale as old as time. The abused grow up to become the abusers.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 22 hours ago

I just want people to stop killing other people!

hey, that's antisemitic! think of all the profits weapons companies could make, you're hurting them. what about their freedom?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What I think is most unbelievable is that the Israelis actually think people are buying their BS excuses. They really need to take lessons from Trump who apparently can make millions believe the most ridiculous lies.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Israelis don't really care as long as people keep voting for the two parties which are in their pocket.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Honestly, I'm not even sure it's just the funding. Israel has the Mossad, famously one of the most effective and ruthless intelligence agencies on the planet. Is it really hard to imagine they simply have damning blackmail material on many of the political leaders of both parties? The carrot is the AIPAC money. The stick is the Mossad and its tools. Hell, for a particularly troublesome lawmaker, would they even be above resorting to assassination? Look at how many innocent people they're willing to kill to get one Hamas or Iranian military leader. If they thought killing a US House member of Senator was necessary to keep US support, do you really think they would be above that? I certainly don't. And I don't think they would be above subtly pointing that out to US lawmakers.

The Israelis are masters at assassinating foreign leaders. They mostly apply that to their enemies, but if they're convinced a US lawmaker is their enemy, there's no reason to suspect they would be above killing US leaders as well. I honestly believe that many US leaders support Israel in part out of a genuine fear for their physical safety. The killing of a US leader would likely be done quietly, rather than a bomb dropped on someone's house. But I have zero doubt that Israel makes credible death threats against US leaders.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

I hate that you're correct

[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago

Isn't that what Netanyahu has being doing all along?

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago (9 children)

So all of a sudden

Maybe something happened that caused the shift? Hmm, what could it be?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

Don't say it or you're an anti-semite. Shocking that opposing the murdering and starving of people is antisemitic.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Was right on the tip of my tongue, but can't quite come up with it. Something about a gen or side? Something like that I think.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago

genside? generation? genetics? idk

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[–] Godort 77 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I mean, there wasn't an incredibly well documented, active genocide happening 8 years ago.

That has a lot of sway on public opinion.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's been ongoing and documented for decades.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

The Israel's were always very cruel to the Palestinians but you'd never know it due to the lack of media coverage

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago

It was an open air prison poised for a genocide then. I’m glad people are realizing that the Israeli is as evil as anything and they shield it with a blanket of “antisemitism” to shut everyone up. That old chestnut no longer is working.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There was, in Palestine. In 2014, Israel murdered like 1,400 Palestinians. This is nowhere near new for Israel, it is SOP for 70 years. The difference is that social media platforms gave us a direct view that corporate media actively chooses to not show us, as you pointed to.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Reporting almost 60,000 killed in this current war. That’s over 40x as many. Not downplaying the 1,400 but let’s not pretend this isn’t a great escalation compared to the atrocities of the past

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I would say that the most telling thing is that there hasn't been a similar shift among Republicsns.

Anyone who can look at what Israel has done and is doing to the Palestinians in Gaza, and increasingly in the West Bank, without being filled with horror, revulsion and pity is a monster.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 19 hours ago

Republicans are shitty people full stop.

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