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Translation: "A black man is familiar with freedom in America. Here it is, uncle Tom's cabin."

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Republicans will read this headline and use this stat to justify their racism - calling it a flaw in black men, instead of what it really is, a flaw in police institutions.

[–] [email protected] 163 points 1 week ago (13 children)

By age 23, 49 percent of black males, 44 percent of Hispanic males and 38 percent of white males have been arrested.

https://www.albany.edu/news/45558.php

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Thank you providing an actual source!

This title is like some boomer FaceBook shit other wise. That would normally be the minority’s are taking our jobs; shit..:

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago

Jesus fucking shit thats horrifying

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

it helps keep the for-profit business in business, as being arrested makes it you ineligible for most military services, not all but the more specialize ones will deny you based on that, it still negotiable, except for felony, or SA any sex related crimes.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (5 children)

All of those sound insanely high. If you take a group of 10 random adult men from the US, roughly four of them have been arrested?

Is a lot of it for underage drinking because that law is so far from lived reality?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Roughly four by age 23. If you consider all the male population, the numbers would probably be considerably higher. It's indeed hard to believe...

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Roughly 25% of the country will be arrested, or put on probation at least once in their lives. That's been a steady statistic since the early '90s when Clinton signed his crime bill.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I got arrested as a kid for skipping school! I was being sexually assaulted in the school bathroom and was terrified of leaving the house, but obviously the way to solve that was cuffing me and throwing me in juvie.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wow that's fucked. In my country the kids going to school is the parents legal responsibility, they can actually get fined if the child is delinquent. But never would the child be arrested.

I'm very sorry that happened to you, both the sexual assault and the police treatment.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'm betting that this counts field arrests and not just people that are brought to the station, booked, and detained. By that definition, my close friend circle in high school would have been right in line with this numbers.

I, a white cis-man, was technically arrested twice before I was 23 (once for possession of alcohol and once for possession of marijuana) but I've never been brought to the station or read my rights. Both times a field arrest report was filled out and I was issued an appearance ticket with a court date. This was in NY so your experiences with the same crimes might be wildly different.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

And that is based on data only up to 2008. You know that's so much worse now.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Maybe we just arrest people and throw them in jail way too fucking much. Land of the imprisoned, home of the DA

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I called 911 as the victim of DV, they came and arrested both of us. The system is so broken.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

they need the statistics to pad the numbers for thier budget probably.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

I'm in my 40s and have met, I don't know, at least several hundred people over my lifetime more than once. At least as far as I know none of them has been in actual prison. Few have spent their night on the jail when getting too drunk (and obviously done some stupid shit while wasted) and police have "offered" them a bed to sober up but that's it.

Obviously not in the US. I can't even imagine society where nearly every other male you encounter would've been in prison at some point.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Same, except I am in the US. I suspect this is highly stratified by class, such that either nobody you know has been arrested or everybody you know has been arrested.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah. I've (unfortunately) been in the US for the last few years. I'm at an university though, so most of my American peers come from a fairy rich (and mostly white) background. None of them have ever been arrested.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

White male who grew up in Idaho here.

I have been arrested on several occasions and so have a number of my friends.

I would not consider myself poor or lower class either. Id assume your theory holds some weight, but I'd also assume it follows a lot of trends we wouldn't expect as well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

us does have the highest amount PRISONERS in the world, and incarceration rate. recividism is pretty high, as there is almost non-existent rehabilitation for offendors. also the fact they dont prepare inmates for the outside world years later, when things changed, so its almost impossible to get a job, so they commit another crime just so they stay in prison.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is an insane percentage, holy crap.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

also preferentially targeting Race too, and then income wise.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Police state

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (9 children)

and 38 percent of white males

The headline is bad, but my expectation would have been something low like 1% for white men. 30% worse treatment for black men is bad, but it is not the expected 5000%.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Arrest is different from imprisonment, it must be noted.

[–] RandAlThor 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Why have so many people have been arrested in the US? This is crazy ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

i was detained a well known chain store in the early 2000s for lifting, and at the same time they also ignored a tall white guy who went through security devices which caused it to beep, they completely ignored them and focused on me.

worst if your A POC, they target certain races in certain areas. back 90s 2000s i heard they went after alot of asians in LA area because of alleged gang activity. they almost never target affluent or near affluent areas.

if you a poc walking near even certain groups of white people you will get the immediate dirty look from patrons and even the employees of certains business sometimes or even change thier body language, never seen that when a white person does that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction —US 13th Amendment

Capitalism and Statism. That's why

[–] skisnow 6 points 1 week ago

America bad

unironically

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What was that? The land of the free?

Whoever told you that is your enemy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

free from rights.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Is this an anti-flag lyric? It sounds so familiar

edit: wait it's rage against the machine isn't it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Can't waste the day when the night brings a hearse. So make a move and plead the 5th 'cause you can't plead the 1st.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The takeaway here should be that poverty creates crime.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

and that systemic racism, ie deliberate policies, maintain the status quo and keep black and non white communities poor, and even some white communities are kept poor.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

they need poor whites, so they can drum up racism, and and have solid voter base, also useful cannon fodder for LEO and MAYBE the military.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

the story of the rich person, the poor person, the immigrant and the 100 cookies.

the rich person takes 99 cookies, then warns to the poor person "hey, watch out, the immigrant is going to take your cookie"

[–] skisnow 15 points 1 week ago

It's always been an absolute and complete source of bafflement to me how many people don't seem to get this. I'm a (relatively) high earner and have no hesitation voting for the most left wing candidate on the ballot, because I think it represents good value to pay a few extra percent in tax to not have to be scared walking down the street or to keep checking my home security cameras. What's the point having wealth if I'm constantly having to protect it?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

Damn. Glad I'll never go to that backwards ass shithole country.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Land of the free...

I'd like to compare with stats for other parts of the world.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

US has more people imprisoned than China. Not per capita, total.

Yep

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

also china loves westerners living in the country as well, particularly if you are white.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish 12 points 1 week ago

And if MAGA has their way, the other half will be shot.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Republicans: The other half are guilty of something, we just haven’t got to them yet.

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