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    [–] [email protected] 187 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Lets not be deliberately obtuse, you're clearly meant to be using it with your feet.

    [–] BCsven 71 points 1 month ago

    Just the left foot only

    [–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    TIL Gnome devs have (left) foot fetishism

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    [–] [email protected] 170 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    GNOME is more keyboard-focused than KDE. It just also happens to have much better touch support.

    Get this meme to /linuxsucks where it belongs.

    [–] [email protected] 109 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    In my experience, KDE Plasma is surprisingly actually better than Gnome for tablet use. You would think that Gnome's more minimal and chunky UI would make it a better fit, but Plasma just has a lot more little usability QOL features.

    [–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago

    This has been my experience as well. Fedora KDE is easier and more intuitive than Fedora GNOME on my Surface Go 2.

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

    Did something change on the keyboard front? I love KDE but I can only use it comfortably on my Steam Deck with a horrible combination of Steam's keyboard, Onboard and Maliit and all of them suck in their own little ways.

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    [–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago

    GNOME is more keyboard-focused "in the way the devs thought it's good". If users want to change the way, they gonna use tweaks, dconf editor or gsettings and navigate a jungle of key-value pairs like Windows Registry

    [–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Yeah, this meme is a complete whiff, just seems edgy/hipster-y while ignoring the fact that nobody really cares because GNOME is a great DE.

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    [–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (13 children)

    How is KDE less keyboard-focused? I spent like ten minutes setting up kwin shortcuts and now have the same level of keyboard-only interaction as with any WM.

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    [–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    GNOME doesn't have nearly enough keyboard shortcuts for me as a keyboard focused user. IMHO, keyboard use is all about customizability, which GNOME is not.

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    [–] [email protected] 114 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    Gnome does some questionable things, and some are just personal preference, but there is at least one thing that they do that makes zero sense regardless of how you use your system...

    The AppIndicator extension SHOULD be default. There is no reason for it to be an extension other than pure stubbornness. There are applications that literally require it in order to function at all.

    [–] [email protected] 61 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    That you need an extension to disable the overview at startup still boggles my mind and the arrogance of the developers in the thread that started it didn't lessen my antipathy for Gnome at all.

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    [–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Default the cursor to the Search field on a Save dialog is possibly the absolute fucking stupidest thing ever.

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    [–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

    I think the lack of a system tray in gnome is a case of perfect of being the enemy of good.

    https://youtu.be/ejqNCbE42cg

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    [–] [email protected] 92 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    In a land where desktops can be ripped out and replace with ease - what's the point in arguing? GNOME isn't my thing but I'm glad it's an option.

    [–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Can you swap out desktop environments in Linux like launchers on android?

    [–] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Yeah pretty much. Or have multiple installed and pick which to use when you log in

    [–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Wait what?! Install several, pick upon login?! Had no idea, that's awesome.

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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    My main complaint with how Gnome does stuff is in environments where it is the only option (e.g. RHEL).

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    [–] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    GNOME looks like it is touch friendly, but try to run it on a tablet and it's really fucking not. I had to DL a bunch of tweaks tools to make it useable at all and now the tablet breaks whenever there's a Gnome update that the tweaks weren't designed for.

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    [–] [email protected] 61 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Don't even try to say GNOME is a touch screen design. I've used it with a touchscreen, it's just bad design. What bothers me the most is that is close to being good if not for a couple of stupid decisions like having no system tray.

    [–] cyberpunk007 19 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    The system tray thing irks me to no end. Some apps still use one to control things and you have to use hacky plugins to get them to show. Other than that there's a lot I do like about gnome. Plasma suits my needs more though. So much more you can do with it.

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    [–] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    I gonna be absolutely honest,gnome is fantastic for laptops.

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    [–] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    I absolutely love (slightly tweaked) gnome. Fight me if you want, I'm sick in bed and have time.

    [–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    well if you're sick in bed this will be an easy fight...

    I elbow slam your face, your turn

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    [–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    "Fight me if you want, I'm sick in bed and have time."

    I'm also sick and in bed, and this is such an appealing offer of a sparring match, but alas, I've never used Gnome

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

    this makes you the ideal candidate for an internet argument !

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    [–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    They seem to be at war with the minimize and maximize buttons.

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

    Really weird decision they make

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    [–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I like gnome personally. It is all about simple inclusive design

    [–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

    I get distracted/overwhelmed fairly easily, so GNOME is a godsend. minimalistic top bar + on demand workspaces to throw my extra windows into = I can actually get stuff done.

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    [–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    I thought it was going to be a joke about Windows 8

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    [–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    Wh-what? Have you used GNOME before or just mad because they don't have the shitty main menu copied from MS Windows?

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    [–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

    i like gnome, it looks good, is smooth, and does it's job

    [–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    most of the things in gnome extensions should be built in and available from the settings. that being said there's nothing stopping me from just using something else, hence why I use kde.

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    [–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago
    [–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Gnome is not really touch-centric, it's more keyboard-crentric. Sure, the activity overview is great for touch. It's even greater for the keyboard though. And I don't like using the mouse a lot anyway

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    [–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

    Oh! A Gnome hate thread!

    I'm in!

    FUCKING GNOME>!!!111!!!ELEVEN

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    More like forcing no customization

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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I'm going to roll your machine back to KDE4

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    Both Gnome and KDE are 100x better than win or macOS. I use KDE for me but I install Gnome on my familly 's stuff.

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

    You know how you start hallucinating in a sensory deprivation situation? I feel a lot of UX people just aren't talking to users directly and thus we get whatever they hallucinate is a good design, disconnected from any actual user needs. Any user feedback only comes after they've made their mind up and is seen as the users being wrong, as the alternative is harder to deal with.

    It's free so I can't really complain, but I can use KDE instead.

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