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[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 hours ago

Let me ask chatgpt what I think about this

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago

Counterpoint - if you must rely on AI, you have to constantly exercise your critical thinking skills to parse through all its bullshit, or AI will eventually Darwin your ass when it tells you that bleach and ammonia make a lemon cleanser to die for.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

It’s going to remove all individuality and turn us into a homogeneous jelly-like society. We all think exactly the same since AI “smoothes out” the edges of extreme thinking.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Vs text books? What's the difference?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

The variety of available text books, reviewed for use by educators vs autocratic loving tech bros pushing black box solutions to the masses.

Just off thebtopnofnmy head.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

Copilot told me you're wrong and that I can't play with you anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

I use it to write code for me sometimes, saving me remembering the different syntax and syntactic sugar when I hop between languages. And I use to answer questions about things I wonder - it always provides references. So far it's been quite useful. And for all that people bitch and piss and cry giant crocodile tears while gnashing their teeth - I quite enjoy Apple AI. It's summaries have been amazing and even scarily accurate. No, it doesn't mean Siri's good now, but the rest of it's pretty amazing.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Also your ability to search information on the web. Most people I've seen got no idea how to use a damn browser or how to search effectively, ai is gonna fuck that ability completely

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago

To be fair, the web has become flooded with AI slop. Search engines have never been more useless. I've started using kagi and I'm trying to be more intentional about it but after a bit of searching it's often easier to just ask claude

[–] [email protected] 10 points 14 hours ago

Gen Zs are TERRIBLE at searching things online in my experience. I’m a sweet spot millennial, born close to the middle in 1987. Man oh man watching the 22 year olds who work for me try to google things hurts my brain.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Tinfoil hat me goes straight to: make the population dumber and they’re easier to manipulate.

It’s insane how people take LLM output as gospel. It’s a TOOL just like every other piece of technology.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I mostly use it for wordy things like filing out review forms HR make us do and writing templates for messages to customers

[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. It’s great for that, as long as you know what you want it to say and can verify it.

The issue is people who don’t critically think about the data they get from it, who I assume are the same type to forward Facebook memes as fact.

It’s a larger problem, where convenience takes priority over actually learning and understanding something yourself.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

As you mentioned tho, not really specific to LLMs at all

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Is that it?

One of the things I like more about AI is that it explains to detail each command they output for you, granted, I am aware it can hallucinate, so if I have the slightest doubt about it I usually look in the web too (I use it a lot for Linux basic stuff and docker).

Some people would give a fuck about what it says and just copy & past unknowingly? Sure, that happened too in my teenage days when all the info was shared along many blogs and wikis...

As usual, it is not the AI tool who could fuck our critical thinking but ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

I love how they chose the term "hallucinate" instead of saying it fails or screws up.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

I see it exactly the same, I bet you find similar articles about calculators, PCs, internet, smartphones, smartwatches, etc

Society will handle it sooner or later

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I felt it happen realtime everytime, I still use it for questions but ik im about to not be able to think crtically for the rest of the day, its a last resort if I cant find any info online or any response from discords/forums

Its still useful for coding imo, I still have to think critically, it just fills some tedious stuff in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It was hella useful for research in college and it made me think more because it kept giving me useful sources and telling me the context and where to find it, i still did the work and it actually took longer because I wouldnt commit to topics or keep adding more information. Just dont have it spit out your essay, it sucks at that, have it spit out topics and info on those topics with sources, then use that to build your work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (16 children)

Google used to be good, but this is far superior, I used bings chatgpt when I was in school idk whats good now (it only gave a paragraph max and included sources for each sentence)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Just try using AI for a complicated mechanical repair. For instance draining the radiator fluid in your specific model of car, chances are googles AI model will throw in steps that are either wrong, or unnecessary. If you turn off your brain while using AI, you're likely to make mistakes that will go unnoticed until the thing you did is business necessary. AI should be a tool like a straight edge, it has it's purpose and it's up to you the operator to make sure you got the edges squared(so to speak).

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Their reasoning seems valid - common sense says the less you do something the more your skill atrophies - but this study doesn't seem to have measured people's critical thinking skills. It measured how the subjects felt about their skills. People who feel like they're good at a job might not feel as adequate when their job changes to evaluating someone else's work. The study said the subjects felt that they used their analytical skills less when they had confidence in the AI. The same thing happens when you get a human assistant - as your confidence in their work grows you scrutinize it less. But that doesn't mean you yourself become less skillful. The title saying use of AI "kills" critical thinking skill isn't justified, and is very clickbaity IMO.

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