God dammit, and just as Google starts enforcing manifest 3. Maybe it's time to stop doing this internet thing altogether. It had a pretty nice run but right now it's just a propaganda and compliance tool...
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From my understanding, they're pushing this shit on March 14th.
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Also our next lunar eclipse, at least in the USA.
Check out the gemini protocol and the small web, lots of rabbit holes there.
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They've released an update, and I'm just generally confused: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/firefox-terms-of-use/
I fully believe that they didn't intend for it to sound so... all encompassing, but this update makes me even more confused. What data is "uploaded" to firefox? I just thought Firefox was the browser, not some website. Do they mean the services Mozilla offers?
This doesn't make any sense to me either. Why do they need a license for what you type into Firefox if that data never gets shared with Mozilla?
I don't know a single application that you need to give a license to so they can handle your data locally.
Exactly.
We’ve seen a little confusion about the language
Tastes like "I'm sorry you feel that way"
The privacy notice document lists how each data type is used. It includes in-browser ads on the new tab page, AI chatbots, and "to market our services".
I'm glad I use a fork, even if it much more unstable. Kind of want servo to become stable and someone to make a browser based on that.
Kind of want servo to become stable and someone to make a browser based on that.
Maybe that's why Mozilla quit contributing to it.
Igalia is currently working hard on making it easy to use Servo as an embeddable browser engine similar to how Chromium can be used.
The problems of doing that with Gecko, the browser engine that powers Firefox, is main reason why there are so few alternative browsers based on it.
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Or why do they have a world wide right for anything entered into Firefox.
This seems like a great time to install LibreWolf.
Yes, but even more important to avoid sync with an Mozilla account, if you need the sync function (maybe Filen?) (Vivaldi has an own sync EE2E)
I just switched to Bitwarden for passwords
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I’m switching to Librewolf. I don’t want ads in my browser.
Why why why don't they just do like Wikipedia or the Internet Archive does and just come out and ask for donations instead of trying to sneak all this advertising shit into things?
EDIT: Another idea, which I'm sure they'll never consider, is to host actual @thunderbird.net email addresses which could be paid for. People at this very minute are looking for Proton Mail replacements, and this could be one of them . . .
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US companies are not longer trustworth
Capital is the problem, not nationality.
Yes, but also non existent US privacy policy. There the users are simply raw material for the benefit of large corporations and user rights an incomprehensible communist phrase, to make America great again. The EU at least put limits to these abuses.
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That website actually promotes Firefox, you know. Not sure it fits this thread.
Also from the "European" recommendations, Vivaldi is Chromium, and Mullvad is Tor, which is Firefox.
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So what’s the next best thing to use, preferably one that supports uBlock?
There is only firefox, chrome, or safari to chose from. I just use a firefox fork.
If you're sticking to Firefox-based browsers, Waterfox seems to be the fork closest to Firefox without being controlled by Mozilla.
I'll be moving to https://github.com/schizofox/schizofox on my x86 machines.
Mobile will be a fork of Firefox.
https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird is a project I'm keeping an eye on, will be a while off being a daily driver.
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What's the best alternative? This doesn't sound great.....
anyone up to date on how servo has been doing?
I wonder how they can expect to get more users like that. Their user are privacy conscious, this is the move to lose them. I am thinking about using tor browser on android. I don't see any other alternative.
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i dont know on how many of my accounts back then on reddit were banned for pointing out the moz board is just trash. more than 10 i am sure. again and again people dont want to hear they are wrong. still cant tell people THEY are the problem when using apple or google accounts, but those digital imbeciles tell me about the dangers of deepseek.thankfully in a globalised world natural selection is back on the map and not adapting to modern society puts you in place. so everyone can stick to their wrong beliefs and not vax, have accounts with google or even vote trump...be as dumb as you want...keep telling yourself mozilla is "the good guys"... iphones are secure and manufactured without slave labour.
It's frustrating that the last bastion of hope against total Google dominance of the browser market has no sense of direction at all and is constantly tripping over rakes.
Personally, i still belive in not giving Google market dominance but that's mainly because I want the web to thrive, and competition breeds innovation.
With that said, these ToS are making me leave FF, although I am going to Librefox and Fenec now
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https://gitlab.com/ironfox-oss/IronFox
i can suggest ironfox, the fork of mull for android
Why don't they use the official fdroid repo?
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