https://gitlab.com/ironfox-oss/IronFox
i can suggest ironfox, the fork of mull for android
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I’m switching to Librewolf. I don’t want ads in my browser.
What's the best alternative? This doesn't sound great.....
This seems like a great time to install LibreWolf.
Yes, but even more important to avoid sync with an Mozilla account, if you need the sync function (maybe Filen?) (Vivaldi has an own sync EE2E)
AFAIK the sync is end to end encrypted
Yes, Mozilla sync is encrypted, but your account data is sended to Alphabet (Google) and tracked by googleanalytics and google-tagmanager.
I just switched to Bitwarden for passwords
That's the best free option, and possibly best option overall. I've been with them for about five years now and it's been great.
i think you can have it sync to a self hosted server, also an option.
You can, but the last time I did that the instructions were incomplete, and you still had to auth through Mozilla. That was a few years ago, so things might have changed since then.
Firefox sync is E2EE too (or at least can be, mine is)
anyone up to date on how servo has been doing?
They've released an update, and I'm just generally confused: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/firefox-terms-of-use/
I fully believe that they didn't intend for it to sound so... all encompassing, but this update makes me even more confused. What data is "uploaded" to firefox? I just thought Firefox was the browser, not some website. Do they mean the services Mozilla offers?
This doesn't make any sense to me either. Why do they need a license for what you type into Firefox if that data never gets shared with Mozilla?
I don't know a single application that you need to give a license to so they can handle your data locally.
Exactly.
Or why do they have a world wide right for anything entered into Firefox.
We’ve seen a little confusion about the language
Tastes like "I'm sorry you feel that way"
The privacy notice document lists how each data type is used. It includes in-browser ads on the new tab page, AI chatbots, and "to market our services".
I'm glad I use a fork, even if it much more unstable. Kind of want servo to become stable and someone to make a browser based on that.
Kind of want servo to become stable and someone to make a browser based on that.
Maybe that's why Mozilla quit contributing to it.
Igalia is currently working hard on making it easy to use Servo as an embeddable browser engine similar to how Chromium can be used.
The problems of doing that with Gecko, the browser engine that powers Firefox, is main reason why there are so few alternative browsers based on it.
Also because Blink is the best and most advanced engine. The problem of Chromium is only that it need to gut out the Google APIs before it is a valid base for an browser. Vivaldi does it, also degoogled Chromium and even EDGE (but in change filling it with a ton of M$ tracking APIs). The only alternative (Linux only) is the Konqueror Browser with the Grandfather of Blink, KHTML by KDE (German company).
Gnome web is also decent but not great for power users. It's based on Webkit.
The problem of using blink is that then you give more power to google. They are the ones developing it, so they can decide what goes in it... cough jpegxl cough...
Yes, Google can decide what goes in it, but because it's FOSS, any other can decide what to delete from it. The power of Google isn't Chromium, but the Chrome Store, it's services, and all Websites which use Google APIs. Vivaldi has less relations with Google than Mozilla/Firefox, it don't have third party investors or sponsors, like Mozilla, which depends on Google ads and money and recently also from another advertising company, loosing it's independence with it.
I wasn't talking about putting stuff in, I was talking about removing it. You say it's open source, but google decides what contributions are added to the main repo. Even if you fork it, if it's not in upstream, it won't be used.
Jpegxl is a really cool image format that google hates for some reason. Every major company wanted chrome to support it, amazon, facebook, etc. but google said no, and guess what, no one can do anything about it. If you use blink you're a slave to google.
God dammit, and just as Google starts enforcing manifest 3. Maybe it's time to stop doing this internet thing altogether. It had a pretty nice run but right now it's just a propaganda and compliance tool...
Bring back ham radios.
Ah shit I'm too introverted to use my voice...
Data packets through radio?
Btw: Rattlegram is a Android/iOS app that can convert text to audio, which you can then play over a ham radio. You can use encryption before you paste the ciphertext into Rattlegram. (Encryption over radio is illegal in many jurisdictions tho... 🏴☠️)
(Encryption over radio is illegal in many jurisdictions tho... 🏴☠️)
Unless the police do it.
Because they got a fucking licence
Us plebs don't have the privilage
Data packets through radio?
Software Defined Radio?
I was on the verge of deleting everything online, including my email address, because I'm with you, but at what point does the privacy movement start intruding on enjoyment of daily activity. I've accepted that my information will be had in exchange for a good product.
It's not exactly how I want to operate, but also, life is too short. Ultimately, I'm on the verge of using Mullvad Browser, Mullvad VPN, and probably getting my email hosted out of some small shared hosting platform somewhere.
I think about this type of stuff daily and it's just exhausting. The Internet has transformed into what we'd hoped it wouldn't over the past five years.
Check out the gemini protocol and the small web, lots of rabbit holes there.
From my understanding, they're pushing this shit on March 14th.
π
Also our next lunar eclipse, at least in the USA.
And Firefox is no longer my browser. Tada.
do you mean you use a more privacy oriented fork like Librewolf, or instead some chrome/chromium derivative or fork?
US companies are not longer trustworth
Capital is the problem, not nationality.
Yes, but also non existent US privacy policy. There the users are simply raw material for the benefit of large corporations and user rights an incomprehensible communist phrase, to make America great again. The EU at least put limits to these abuses.
because US capital decided so. notice that the limits the EU has are slowly being undermined.
That website actually promotes Firefox, you know. Not sure it fits this thread.
Also from the "European" recommendations, Vivaldi is Chromium, and Mullvad is Tor, which is Firefox.
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