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Finland has declined a U.S. request to export eggs amid a severe American shortage caused by bird flu.

The Finnish Poultry Association cited the lack of prior trade agreements and complex regulatory hurdles. Even if exports were possible, Finland’s limited egg production would not significantly impact the U.S. crisis.

Other European nations, including Sweden and Denmark, also face difficulties meeting U.S. demand, while Europe grapples with its own egg shortages.

The U.S. has turned to countries like Turkey and the Netherlands for supplies as bird flu remains a global issue.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago)

Every country should refuse to send eggs to the US.

The only way I would consider it would be if there was a US wide broadcast where the world leader that gives them some has a low-level staffer ask JD Vance if he is going to “say thank you even once”. Trump needs to then tell JD that he has to say thank you because “we don’t have the cards. With them, we start to have cards”.

If they won’t say that on television, put export tariffs on eggs to the US at 500%.

It has to be 500% because 3 times the current price of eggs in Canada is about what they are selling for in the US already.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

WW3 will be caused by shortage of eggs in US and they will invade every country and will take all eggs and hens. Mark my words

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

This reminds of the 90s TV Show Dinosaurs (still an all-time classic) where they had a two parter about war... and what was the cause of the war? Nuts! Literally. War over nuts and their increasing prices and blaming other people for it. So war it is

One of the funniest anti war episodes of all time.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 hours ago

i am fully in support of them not selling us eggs.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 14 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 13 hours ago

wonder if rapey mc rapist and techno nazi along with their gaggle of dip shit losers invested in poultry and eggs before this.

i mean its not uncommon for rich assholes and their corporate entities to heavily invest in things they know are about skyrocket in price or short smaller out circle businesses they know wont make it if the market craches, especially if they get to control the "soft landing"

even during a recession its possible to make a pyramid sized pile of cash if you bet on the right failure, even more so if you can fix the bet in the first place by forcing its price down.

they literally made a whole movie about this about the 2008 financial crisis.

you may not see it on paper right now, but that doesnt mean corpos arent sifting cash into secret accounts, either directly or on their behalf.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 16 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Has anyone offered to sell us eggs at exorbitant prices? Cuz that would be funny as hell.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 hours ago

Come on now, that's not how you spell eggsorbitant

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

At $500 an egg, I'm willing to take a return transatlantic flight.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

trump is going to tariff finland now because "wahh"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

This mental image popped into my head, after reading your comment. Now you get to enjoy it too, wAaHhh!

[–] [email protected] 150 points 22 hours ago (11 children)

This is what happens when you burn all your bridges. I'm American myself and to be brutally honest, I hope most of the free world will continue to refuse requests to export to us.

[–] Montreal_Metro 33 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

The US is no longer a member of the 'free world'. Traveling to US now is just as dangerous as travelling to China.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago

At least in China the likelihood of you getting gunned down by either police or some drunkard is significantly lower than US. As for other problem like scam or pickpocket or government overreach for some opinion, you won't ever need to worry if you follow some common sense and common travelling tips. Authoritarian government like CCP treat traveller better than local.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Now I might be naive or plain wrong, but I tell you completely honestly, that I would always have been more concerned for my safety travelling to the US than China.

Naturally, one would steer away from discussing politics or behaving in 'concerning' ways in China - for example filming government buildings.

But, I have never felt I'd be in any danger doing average tourist stuff in China. I've been there twice, to more rural parts as it happens, and felt safe: People friendly, no edge.

US on the other hand... I admit I've barely visited to transfer flights, but the idea of being let loose in the US is considerably more challenging for me. Knowing that everyone is potentially armed, that trigger happy police are everywhere, there are high racial tensions, drugged up homeless etc.

This was truly my impression even before Trump was ever a household name.

Is it surprising to Americans that a Brit would genuinely feel that way around about the two countries? I don't know. It doesn't seem controversial to me, but then I read Americans talking about China as though it's some scary place for them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Sure. But the American empire will not just slowly die. As their people lose their "toys" that distract them they will need someone to blame it on that isn't the US government.

This will at some point be other western nations along with their current scapegoat of immigrants and Palestine supporters. The American empire will use its military power long before it just lets it's empire die. Its playing cards to see which nations it can blame first and which western allies will decide to align with them rather than face their military.

I agree with all the anti American boycotts. I do. But I don't think people realize exactly where that is heading on a world stage.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I suspect more people than you think realise this is a potential outcome.

Assuming it boils over before there is another election (also assuming that's a thing that happens), military action is 100% a playable card.

It's a toddler with a nuclear tantrum button.

It's honestly not that much different in type then most nuclear powered nations.

The difference is "absolute last resort, and only maybe then" vs "they won't let me annex Greenland and are being mean to me"

Hyperbolic ofc, but illustrative.

What are the reasonable good alternatives though?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Maybe, I'm mostly just worried that the western world is fueling nationalism with these tariff wars. The "good alternative" is understanding that the tariff's are not a war between nations but a war on the working class. These tariff's are paid by the working class. The good alternative is understanding that the working class of each of these countries SHOULD be fighting against the ruling classes of each nation. The ruling classes between nations being in "conflict" is a charade. No one in the ruling class cares of the consequences but only sees them as an opportunity to fuel nationalism and reactionary sentiment.

So, while I will agree with anti America and anti imperialism. I just think that the "buy European" or "by Canadian" are missing the forest for the trees. The ruling class of Canada or Europe are not fighting a war against America. They are worsening the material conditions of their working class (in response to the Americans doing so) in order to maintain the profits of the ruling class of their nations.

It is absolutely ignorant to think that Canada or Europe or any other capitalist nation is fighting for the interest of their working class. They are fighting for the interest of their ruling class and will use nationalism to justify the worsening conditions we all face.

TLDR: This is not a war between nations but a war between class. (I know Marxist cliche but read it if you want more than that.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 44 minutes ago

A worldwide revolution in which everyone unites against the "ruling class" isn't a viable alternative in and of itself, that's like saying "world peace".

An example of an alternative would be something which could fill in the blank in this sentence and make sense.

"Don't boycott products/companies, that isn't how you achieve your goal, what you should be doing is "

This is not a war between nations but a war between class

The issue i have with this isn't that it's a marxist cliche (i'll take your word on that, I've no idea) it's that it presents a false dichotomy in which a class war and a national war can't both be occurring at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 22 hours ago (10 children)

yeah, it sucks, I wish we had this cheap protein, but, like... americans need to suffer. they need to suffer, and they need to know it's their leader's fault.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

They need to know it's their fault. They elected him, either through action or inaction.

Then they need to do some introspection to figure out what the fuck is wrong with them.

But they won't because America doesn't do that. 9/11, for example, had nothing to do with anything America had done.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

what happened on the ninth of november?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The suffering is almost a guarantee, but I'm not holding my breath on anyone that doesn't already do so holding Trump accountable for shit.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 19 hours ago

Did you say thanks ? No? Go lay your own...

[–] [email protected] 321 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Nobody should send us eggs. Nobody should give us anything, given the government we have now

Orangeboi wants transactional, so give him transactional. Hold the US state department over the barrel as long as you can. Hold our feet to the fire. Make the negotiations as torturous and hostile as possible. Squeeze us until you see blood. Get absolutely everything you can out of any “deal” you make with us - it’s the “art of the deal”, after all.

There are huge swaths of Americans and political leadership that now really need to find out, because they’ve been fucking around and ruining things for far too long.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

The US is going to be begging for more than just eggs in a few months. California is one of their biggest agricultural states and they have no water; Trump had them empty their reservoirs in an idiotic attempt to fight the wildfires earlier this year. Plus, the whole country is dependent on Canadian potash to fertilize their crops.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Is there anybody who's done the analysis on his bad it will be? California's online tracker shows right now that nearly every major reservoir in the state is above the historical average level for March 15th. The system as a whole is at over 78% of capacity. The news stories that I found put the releases at of 2.2 billion gallons, which is not much. (The lake near me contains about 133 billion gallons.) They were from Lake Kaweah and Lake Success, both reservoirs which primarily serve flood-control functions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago

Dumping all that water from the reservoirs did nothing but sabotaging California's ability to make it through the dry season. Not a drop of it went to fire-fighting. Trump is a wrecker and a liar.

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[–] [email protected] 150 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Okay, but you have to become the 20th province of Finland."

[–] [email protected] 55 points 23 hours ago (11 children)

I accept Finland's terms. Now that I'm a Finnish citizen, I would like to move to the country proper.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago

now you can go to the doctor without losing your home!

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago (3 children)

How about we introduce export tariffs on eggs instead.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

Seems strange to give eggs to a country who talks of just taking over countries left and right.

Maybe rotten eggs would be more suitable.

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'm sure the Finns aren't exactly keen to take a price hike on eggs to meet a hostile country's needs.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Egg prices aren’t high solely because of bird flu. They’re high because of regional monopolies and a price fixing cartel. The largest egg producers are seeing record profits.

I hope it’s clear that I’m not saying bird flu doesn’t exist or affect prices. I’m not much of a conspiracy theorist. But if I had to guess, I’d say it’s 10% bird flu and 90% companies raising prices in unison because they can blame bird flu. If it were just bird flu, the companies would be losing money.

NB: it feels very weird to call them “egg producers” because hens are the actual egg producers. Egg distributors, maybe? In any case, the distributors are doing fine and their only competition in most regions are small, organic farms whose eggs were already $7 a dozen. It’s just the low end of the market that’s gone crazy.

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