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[–] ninthant 72 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Not directed at you, OP — but unwanted “annexation” is invasion and we should use the real words even if they frighten us.

[–] theacharnian 4 points 6 hours ago

Nah, it's not the same thing. Donald is talking about diplo-annexing us. Or in less gamy terms, he's talking about a hostile takeover.

[–] wampus 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If/when Alberta and Sask vote to defect, that's not an invasion. After losing them, and east/west trade is disrupted, forcing BC to also defect, it's not an invasion. If the US takes greenland, effectively fully encircling Canada and blocking most trade, causing the rest to 'vote' to defect, it's not an invasion.

It's crappy, and antagonistic/aggressive -- but if they don't move military troops in, and if the "choice" to defect is "voted for" by Canadians who are sick of being embargo'd and isolated etc, then... idk. I think "invasion" isn't right, and annexation seems more accurate.

[–] Auli 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Fuck that about Alberta and Saskatchewan. First all of Alberta would not leave lots of treaty territory and I imagine they'd want to stick with Canada. Second if the province can separate why can't parts of Alberta separate to Canada.

[–] wampus 1 points 3 hours ago

Quebec already set a precedent that Provinces can theoretically vote to separate. The Bloc Quebecois in the 90s held votes, and the claim then was that a simple 51% majority on the referendum would've triggered Quebec into declaring independence from Canada. The blocs remained a staple in Canadian politics ever since, historically promoting "Quebec First" and separatist values the whole time, with tons of support from people in Quebec -- one of the big surprises with the US rhetoric, is that Quebec is suddenly seeming more 'pro Canada', even while still electing a party who's roots are separatist. Canada's a federation of provinces, so it's theoretically possible for provinces to leave.

If Quebec can do that, there's no reason to think that other provinces can't do the same. And if Alberta were to hold such a referendum, and the vote showed 51% in favour of 'leaving' -- be it through semantic shenanigans on the phrasing of the question, or overt election manipulation aided by people like Musk -- it's unclear how the rest of Canada would react. Even more, if they did that, and Canada didn't let them "leave", the US could take that as a justification to help "free" the people and oil of Alberta.

Individual towns and regions might try to separate -- in the Quebec referendum, there'd been talks of the northern parts of QB wanting to stay in Canada. Practically though I don't imagine that'd happen. The division of powers between provinces and federal governments, and the authorities given them, are fairly clear cut. Towns and regions sorta just pop up at resource hubs within the province, and aren't as clearly demarked in terms of self governance / "the big" items for a nation. Again, we're a federation of provinces, but provinces aren't a 'federation' of cities.

[–] Sturgist 1 points 4 hours ago

Have a look through their comments. Hardly the first shitty take they've had

[–] jerkface 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

No, it is not. Invasion is a military incursion. Annexation is not a military incursion. If one sounds less bad than the other, you're reading that in. People aren't minimizing by referring to annexation and invasion as different things.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

He probably doesn’t know the difference between conquering and annexing. I wish I was kidding but it might be true.

[–] ninthant 17 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

He pals around with Danille Smith, Kevin O'Leary, and folks from lil PP's team. So it's not entirely surprising that someone as stupid as Trump would think that Canadians are on board with this idea. His personal experience validated it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The dude freed Andrew Tate. I don’t need to know anything else. Donald trump is a fucking scumbag and I hope he dies sooner rather than later. Hopefully it happens in a plane together with musk and Vance.

[–] npcknapsack 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Hurry up with the new Air Force 1, Boeing!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago

Yeah! Find extra corners to cut! Time is money!

[–] ragepaw 12 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I keep saying that he isn't looking to annex, he's looking to conquer.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I always thought "annex" had a negative connotation to begin with.

[–] ragepaw 2 points 3 hours ago

There can be peaceful annexation. East Germany, Newfoundland, Hawaii (debatable), Hong Kong, Alaska and more...

In those cases, both sides (mostly) agreed to the annexation. None were conquered (again, Hawaii is debatable).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. He calls himself a king. He couldn't beat a child in a game of chess, but like Napoleon he will only taste dust and blood in the end.

They have forgotten as close as they are to us, we are to them.

Washington's ego has been so inflated by her victories in the Middle East she is just as ignorant and stupid as the Russian leadership was to belive they could simply annex a massive country with minimal force.

America is creating a nightmare of her own making on both her borders. Only a fool would simultaneously open two fronts at once, alas....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Victories in the Middle East

I'm honestly not sure what this refers to in recent memory unless you're talking about the initial battlefield victories, executing Hussein, killing Bin Laden, or dropping MOAB to make ourselves feel better. We fled Afghanistan with our tails between our leg, left a power vacuum in our wake and the people to be ruled by their theocrats. It was godawful and we lost stupendously more than we gained at least in the public sector. Nice agitprop though I guess.

[–] CircaV 18 points 16 hours ago

Never. He completely underestimates how much Canadians love being Canadian. I’d eat grass for the rest of my life and live outdoors - before I’d give up being Canadian.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 19 hours ago

Europe stands with Canada. This situation sucks so much. I hope France sends some nukes to extend the so called umbrella.

[–] PandaParent 12 points 16 hours ago

Well, duh. Canadians have known he was serious since before he was inaugurated.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 19 hours ago

Donald Trump is 100% stupid

[–] Showroom7561 22 points 20 hours ago

"Deny and justify"

The comparisons made between Russia's attack and the plays that trump has been making should worry everyone.

[–] MyMotherIsAHamster 13 points 19 hours ago

Mango Mussolini can go fuck himself.