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[–] [email protected] 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Don't worry, next time around we won't be voting with ballots. We'll be voting with something a lot more effective at removing Nazis from power.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

or have a MINDER like with putins election, to make sure you vote the right candidate.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Are we at the point yet where we are openly called a dictatorship and humanitarian forces start stepping in...?

We need an outside group to handle our elections because a third of our country is so fucking corrupt it's VILE

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

4 DINOs also voted for the bills, apparently there are in red districts.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dems pretending to be Republicans so they don't lose their jobs always, always, always works. Just ask anyone serving in a Texas/Florida swing seat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

theres at least 10 Dinos in the senates, practically republicans that cant beat a maga candidate.

[–] floofloof 208 points 2 days ago (3 children)

According to the Pew Research Center, 69 million women who have taken their spouse’s name do not have a birth certificate matching their legal name and could find it much harder to register to vote under the bill.

So, among other things, this is a step towards the Republican goal of denying women the vote.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Women of course, but also poor people and immigrants are far less likely to have all of the requisite documentation. Plus it's an opportunity to snipe at transgender people.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I work with the homeless all over the country and the most common theme is that they rarely have all the paperwork to get their ID.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I talk to a lot of people who think voter ID requirements are no big deal, because they have always had an ID. They cannot fathom anyone living a life that doesn't conform to their experiences.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly i'm gonna laugh when the 2nd gen immigrant vote turns out because they all have passports to visit family.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

Why do you think they are targeting birthright citizenship? Just gonna declare all those minorities illegal immigrants and ship them to the concentration camps in El Salvador.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also, I’m adopted…

My name was changed in the decree and not on my birth certificate.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

I changed my last name cause I ain't being called the name of my fucken rapist.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

GOP: Putting the "suffer" back into suffragette

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Then the suffragettes should just go back to the terrorism they chose to abandon at the start of WW1.

No taxation without representation, you fascist cuntrags!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

Every time some liberal recommends peaceful protest, I yell that MLK Jr. couldn't have got where he got without Malcolm X, that Stonewall was a riot, and if someone takes away my right to vote, I'm going to behave in the way that got my foremothers the right to vote!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thankfully they're not blocking online or mail-in voting.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Not yet. Just wait and see.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

North Carolina says hold my beer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean federally. I'd just register in another State if the State was an issue.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When are the Dems going to actually care?

[–] Franklin 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I'm not trying to be negative but what are the Democrats supposed to do in this situation?

They have none of the levers of power because they were voted out of them.

again I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm a Canadian so there may be a gap in my knowledge about things within their power

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

Well, they can show up armed, and ready to take out the fascists.

I mean, aim going out on a limb here, but I'd think reps would have contacts with their governors already, and can activate the state's national guard to defend against the domestic enemies...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The reason people are angry is because when things are reversed and Republicans "don't have the levers of power", they don't let that stop them from getting their way. No, Republicans figure out a way.

Republicans will come up with some obscure rule or law from the 1800s, or bribe/threaten Democrats in swing/conservative areas to join them, or not allowing a vote on something via underhanded means, or whatever.

Hell, just look at Mitch McConnell denying Obama a Supreme Court seat. That was illegal. McConnell got away with it. Not only do Democrats refuse to stoop as low as Republicans to get what they want with their "when they go low, we go high" BS, but Democrats won't even put up a fight when the Republicans are clearly in the wrong.

That's why so many people are saying, "Do something!" to Democrats. Because we all know that if the parties were reversed, Republicans would damn well be doing something, even if that 'something' is illegal or just plain morally wrong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Republicans had control of the senate when Obama was denied the Supreme Court nomination — Mitch McConnell was the Senate majority leader. So, no, parties weren't reversed in the Senate, Democrats didn't have (all) the levers of power at that time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Nope. No more excuses for Democrats.

If the Democrats weren't so spineless, Garland would be a Supreme Court Justice right now...

...But then again, maybe it's for the better. Seeing how often Garland slept on the job while he was Attorney General, Garland's performance shows he was clearly a poor choice for either Supreme Court Justice or Attorney General in the first place.

We're all tired of Democrats being weak, incompetent, and useless for anything other than collecting lobbyist bribes and insider trading info. No more excuses. Do better, Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

4 of them voted for the bill

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Republicans are worried and nervous. Kicking up a big fuss, saying that Republicans are destroying the country and unpatriotic, marching in the streets and promising to raise millions to run against anyone who votes for these unpopular bills, makes the republicans back down. We see it time and again.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 days ago (5 children)

As a trans woman who both legally changed her birth name AND took her husband's last name when getting married:

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I can't WAIT for Chuck Schumer And His Democrats to do LITERALLY NOTHING to Stop this or Slow it Down in ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM!

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

We got married in St Lucia back in the 90s, and we've been trying for several years to get a copy of our marriage certificate so my wife can get her ID updated. We've sent them the money ($10) several times, filled out all the proper documents and followed all the rules (which have changed a few times), and then we hear nothing. After a few months, we try again. There is no option to do it online.

At this point, we are seriously considering getting her a legal name change through the American courts. It will be more expensive, but at least it will work.

I would advise any woman who is getting married to keep her own name, and not change it to her husband's. Dont even hyphenate it. Changing your name is a stupid old custom anyway, I cant believe feminists didn't go after it long ago.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I got married in 1976 and didn't change my name. My mother cried when I told her. "People will think your children are illegitimate!" At work I had to go to HR and explain, they acted like I had lost my mind.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What? Wouldn't HR thank you? I know IT would be praising you for making their job easier.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

In 1976 there wasn't much of an IT department to be had

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago (32 children)

And nothing will be done about it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago

There’s no agency to ride to the rescue. It’s just the government and We The People, for better or worse.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (4 children)

While I consider it evil to exclude legal voters from voting, I cannot wrap my head around the point that about 9% of American citizens cannot prove their citizenship. At least the tax office should know about them, shouldn't they? Or are they "invisible" to the system to avoid getting taxed?

And that they cannot match a person to a birth certificate just because that person got married is such a colossal bureaucratic failure that it is hard to believe. Don't they record marriages anywhere?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

colossal bureaucratic failure

Failure, feature, who’s to say?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

most of them likely dont have thier birth certificate, updated passports, or thier marriage certificate on hand. its actually quite a hassle to get a passport, even more for naturalized citenzenship, its the point that gop knows, its inconvience as hell if you have FT job. you also need valid proof of to even get your citizenship or passport.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

paying taxes has nothing to do with citizenship, even noncitizens pay taxes

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Transgender people have that exact problem right now, even with passports. They effectively cannot prove they are a citizen even with a birth certificate because of Trump's executive orders.

I only have an enhanced NY state driver's license. I don't have Real ID or even a passport. While I'm male and identify as male, I don't have my birth certificate. If they require something like Real ID, passport, or birth certificate the likelihood of me voting pretty much becomes nil. I don't drive, rely on public transportation, and would have to go to a county office and hope I can give them the right information to get a copy of my birth certificate.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The bill would create criminal penalties for election officials who register any noncitizens, even if they did so by mistake

Creating a job that no sane person would ever want to take. The people who do take the job will be overworked, since their office will always be understaffed, and they will tend to err on the side of caution and deny registration as the default.

How about also creating criminal penalties for election officials who refuse to register any citizen, even if they did so by mistake? /s

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