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NHL: Let's talk turkey (self.buycanadian)
submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by Perhapsjustsniffit to c/buycanadian
 

You aren't going to like this...

When you all giving up NHL?

A league that has a vast majority of American teams, American oligarch owners, American head office, millionaire American League boss, American sponsorships, American advertisements, American everything.

There is loads of local Canadian hockey available yet here we are. Rejoicing and cheering at Americanized Canadians playing "our" sport. Attending games, Posting and commenting, watching and buying merch, subscribing, making millionaires and billionaires.

So when are you giving up the NHL?

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[–] UnderFreyja 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I support the Montreal Canadiens, my team is 100% canadian owned, I watch it on canadian broadcasting, I refuse to watch it on american channels/prime.

I also support the Montreal Victoire, the Trois Rivières Lions, the Blainville Armada, The Laval Rockets, the Canadian National team etc Outside of hockey, I also support my local basketball / football teams and am looking forward to follow the Roses inaugural season

Local sports channels like TSN / RDS rely heavily on the NHL to stay viable so by saying let's drop our support for the NHL, you're also advocating hurting these channels which in turn removes cash flow from them to support smaller events.

You want to support Canadian sports, please do. Go see your local games, advocate for more air time, follow teams and share on social media but until a true contender to the NHL comes, one that banks on Canadian teams only, the NHL is where men professional hockey happens.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Victoire are on fire. I have a feeling they will be the champs this season.

[–] UnderFreyja 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I just hope Desbiens stays healthy but Poulin has been her usual self and Stacey is on a streak. The new girls are great too.

Still mad about Vanisova going to Ottawa but at the same time a more balanced league is probably better for the sport.

Can't wait to see what are gonna be the expansion teams!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I am down in New Mexico, so we have nothing in the way of teams here. But from the sounds of things Denver will get one (I know this is counter productive to the overall thread).

[–] MyBrainHurts 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm streaming games.

Though, arguably depending on the network, that may actually just be hurting Canadians.

NHL revenue is based on merch (okay, easy to boycott) gate sales (again, easy enough) and tv licensing which has already been paid this season for the next however many years.

Watching a game on a Canadian owned network like TSN mostly just helps Canadians, possibly some minor adjustment in the next licensing deal but pretty goshdarned marginal as most of the movement on those is driven by anticipation of growth in foreign markets.

[–] KingOfTheCouch 2 points 1 day ago

Pretty sure most of us fairweather 'nuckleheads gave up back in October..........

[–] LimpRimble 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So when are you giving up the NHL?

1968

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit 1 points 2 days ago

1992 for me.

[–] Sturgist 1 points 2 days ago

I live in the UK. I catch maybe one game a year. Always end of Feb. And I only watch by pirate stream. Ain't no danger I'm paying an extra £45/mnth for the sports channels that occasionally air hockey games. Canucks are my home team. Puck drop is 1am my time. I've already essentially gave it up. Not like we're going to win....and if we get close? Not like I'm able to riot like all the folk back home.....

[–] MajorMajormajormajor 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What Canadian alternative is there? Pwhl is great, but there aren't any teams out west by me, and it's just like the Nhl in that it's mixed of Canadian and American. Same with the Ahl, and once you start going lower than that you see a drop in skill and speed, since they're not as good yet/younger players. A Whl game is cheap entertainment, but it's no replacement for the Nhl.

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Excuses abound when you bring up hockey.

[–] MajorMajormajormajor 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Okay, so what alternative is there?

[–] Yoga 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] MajorMajormajormajor 2 points 2 days ago

True, but CHL still has american teams, and has some ties to the NHL as well. It's not clear, from what I can see at first glance, who owns what as well.

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The alternative is to not support American business. That's it. That's what this entire community is about. Do people get offended when you suggest they give up Amazon? Sure they do. Should they give up Amazon. Fucking right they should. Is Hockey a necessity now?

If you have a problem with skill levels then that's your issue not mine. There are tons of options for watching hockey. How do I know? I used to operate a four sheet ice arena in a huge Canadian hockey city. It was busy every day, all day all year round. All skill levels and the cool thing about skill level is the more recognition players get the more they want to be better. The more they improve. Funny how that is. Support minior leagues and they get better. And perhaps you learn to understand the sport you supposedly love better.

Excuses. can't possibly change. My kids gave up KD and Peanut Butter and they're 10. They get it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

not support American business. That's it. That's what this entire community is about.

I thought the community was about supporting the Buy Canadian movement? I'm sorry but you haven't really given an alternative solution to do so, you've only said "don't watch the NHL" which this person said they don't do in a way that the Americans can monetize. You suggest watching minor leagues, but many of those minor leagues are also in bed with the NHL (AHL, ECHL, CHL) for funding and farm teams, so should we be excluding those minor leagues as well from the list?

The point they're trying to make is that you have come in here with these demands but no alternative solutions. Did you also make your kids give up all TV and movie entertainment because most is produced in the US? This sort of attack on someone already trying their best is going to drive people away from the cause. What was the shitty AI otter on Lemmy yesterday saying about "stop tearing down your allies because they aren't as intense as you"?

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No demands. Questions.

I haven't made my kids give up anything. They have done it on their own because their parents are doing it. You know setting an example as parents should. And yes they've given up American media. By choice not demand. No fascists in this house.

Options exist. I only challenged one of them. The NHL. Lots of other options out there and hockey fans such as this one are well aware of their options as seen in the post reply.

They also say nothing about limiting their American input.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

PWHL is expanding next year. With how well it did this year I bet we see at least 4 teams added, if not 6.

[–] MajorMajormajormajor 3 points 2 days ago

That would be good news, pwhl is a ton of fun the watch.