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Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett triggered fierce backlash from MAGA loyalists after forcefully questioning the Trump administration's top lawyer and voicing skepticism over ending birthright citizenship during a heated Supreme Court argument.

Since taking office, Donald Trump has pushed for an executive order to end birthright citizenship, a constitutional guarantee under the 14th Amendment that grants automatic U.S. citizenship to anyone born on American soil.

During oral arguments, Barrett confronted Solicitor General Dean John Sauer, who was representing the Trump administration, over his dismissive response to Justice Elena Kagan's concerns. Barrett sharply asked whether Sauer truly believed there was "no way" for plaintiffs to quickly challenge the executive order, suggesting that class-action certification might expedite the process.

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[–] [email protected] 282 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

Imposter? A Justice should have no loyalty but to the law. This isn’t about her opinion. It’s about reading the 14th Amendment.

Want to change it? Go for it. You’ll need half the House, 2/3 of the Senate, and 3/4 of states to amend the Constitution.

[–] [email protected] 169 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

This is the case that seems the most clear out of any in the past few years.

The text of the amendment isn't murky at all.

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

There's no way to interpret that being born in the US doesn't convey citizenship.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

And that's why the GOP are reframing those deemed undesirable as illegals, invaders, and terrorists. These people by some definitions do not behave as bound to the law of the country they are in.

Any reason to justify what they are doing.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The funny thing about that is if they argue that they’re not under the jurisdiction of the United States, then we couldn’t even give them a parking ticket, let alone deport them. They’d effectively have diplomatic immunity.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (45 children)

That's not how it would work at all. They'd be nationless. You do not want to be nationless.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I believe from listening to recent NPR that their lawyers aren't even arguing about that. They are arguing about whether national injunctions can really be national injunctions or not.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah - they're trying REALLY hard to not argue the merits because it's extremely clear to anyone that what they're doing is illegal, so they're trying to make it a civil suit issue.

The next step after that is to claim Sovereign Immunity to keep civil suits from being heard.

And then they'll have their legal justification for disappearing US Citizens without due process.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A Justice should have no loyalty but to the law.

First time reading about the GOP?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My point is that the 14th Amendment is very clear. There’s no room for interpretation as there is with something like a fetus compared to a baby in Roe v. Wade. What they want is to amend the Constitution. That’s a different process entirely.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (35 children)

14A S3 is also very clear, but here we are

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

Crazy thing is that 2 justices will almost always happily vote to throw the constitution in the trash if it helps with party politics.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why bother, just sign an EO. /s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump, "Why the /s? I'll do it."

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They wouldn't stand a chance of doing this with the states, it would cause a civil war.

They couldnt even get it past a Republican controlled vote.

They have Republicans in office that were not even born in the USA. People forget asshats like Ted Cruz.

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

You can't "end" a Constitutional amendment with an executive order. That simply isn't how the law works.

[–] OutlierBlue 74 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It is if no one stops him. The Constitution doesn't do anything unless people actively uphold it. So far Trump's gotten away with so many things because no one's actually stopping him.

I keep waiting for the American public to take a stand, but apparently they're willing to sit there on the couch while their democracy is stripped away.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Again, we're open to suggestions on what to do.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

The thought of a clearly defined and settled case getting heard by SCOTUS is bad enough on its own. This doesn't even coincide with any kind of real world event besides an asshole President saying, "I don't like this rule."

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

More proof the right wing does not, nor have they ever, given one flying fuck about the Constitution that they go on so much about.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's like they'd already been conditioned to be outraged about some other selectively-ignored sacred text…

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They have only read one of the amendments all the way through and part of another one and the rest is too boring to read.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Curious which ones? I don't think they read all of the Second. The ding-a-lings certainly never read the First and actually understand it, because they keep acting like this is a "Christian" country, when the First says I don't have to give two shits about the chosen lifestyle of the xtian book club. Meaning I most definitely have freedom FROM religion.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder how many of these "MAGA influencers" are just plants or bot accounts.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

But not enough.

77 million people still voted this orange shit-stain into office again. They saw what he'd done before. They saw an attempted coup. They heard all the Nazi-era rhetoric. And they thought "that's the man for us".

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Cult-like behavior. Literally. "You're with us all the way and must always back anything Dear Leader does or says. If you disagree with anything, you must be kicked out, expelled, recalled, fired, or voted out!" It's absolutely psychotic to view the world in such zero-sum, black/white terms.

[–] Mossheart 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I seem to recall the right wailing about cancel culture not too long ago...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

No see - it’s all about who’s doing the thing. Words are all made up anyway, there are just good guys and bad guys.

Remember how “precedent” stopped them from allowing Obama to appoint a new Supreme Court judge as a lame duck, but the same logic didn’t apply to Trump?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is the result of normalizing the practice of religiously indoctrinating children and leaded gasoline.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Is it wrong that I'm thankful for Amy Coney Barrett? She might be the key to stopping this madness.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

If we can't have a progressive, Coney-Barrett would be a better chief justice. She seems to at least try to follow the Constitution (most of the time). Eff her for lying about RvW in her confirmation hearing, though. Eff all those guys.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

She’s certainly performed better than expected. She actually seems to give a damn about the application of law in most cases.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

they fast tracked her to the highest court in the country thinking she was properly trained to be their good little soldier

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't they KNOW the Founders EXPLICITLY Only Protected the RIGHT to SHOOT UP A SCHOOL?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

So she sucks in a great many ways, but I’ve actually been surprised that Coney Barrett hasn’t been the rubber stamp i expected her to be

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If it makes you feel better she basically is the rubber stamp you expected, all she did here was “show skepticism”

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Of the conservative justices, she has voted the least conservative the past two years. Her skepticism may actually indicate where she'll vote.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Every time I see verbs such as "rips" "slams" "melts down" I stop reading because I know it's going to be hyperbole

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

At first, I thought “remove this imposter” was a quote from ACB and I was like “Damn, she really woke up to this whole thing, huh?”

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Somedays I really have to question whether such people really exist. I mean really? What do they think America is?

Edit: I mean, I get it from the people in power, they want to cozy up to that power and so they will parrot its rhetoric. So companies, lobbyists, etc., sure.

But like, regular people? With day jobs? Who function in regular society going to stores and cooking food and cleaning homes and all that? What is their actual vision of America here?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Does maga realize that the more they attack someone, the more they drive that person away?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

Its a cult, they don't care. It just leads existing cult members to isolate harder from outsiders and stay loyal.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

The more they attack someone verbally the more threats that person will receive from their cult.

It’s not about their rage changing anyone’s mind. It’s the threats of violence that follow. Those can make people fall in line or go into hiding and either of those is a win for the oppressors.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

If they don't like that law, there is one path for them to change it: Constitutional Amendment. Good luck with that, fuckers.

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