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Just another reason to wait long after release to buy a game. Denuvo charges games companies to administer the DRM infrastructure and most developers will strip it out of their games after it's been out for a while.
Buying games on launch is one of the most anti-customer experiences you can get. And that's saying something in our wonderful capitalist economy
Buying a game post-launch:
No brainer, imo.
You forgot a bonus point:
Preordering games: I need this digital product before jt goes up in price or runs out of copies!
Pirating single player games is unfortunately the way to go, considering you BUY a single player game and STILL get fucked on it.
Disagree, like yesman (lol) said it's best to wait. I'm not that worried about playing games day one but I still want to sort the Devs, after they've patched out the bugs and removed DRM preferably
If only buying games actually supported devs anymore. Devs seem to get fired for any reason nowadays.
Bad game? Fired. Good game? Also fired. Popular game that people loved? Believe it or not, also fired. Develop a game only for the company to change direction and the game gets cancelled? Absolutely fired.
You'd think these publishers would value talent as much as their intellectual property but they seem to not care anymore for either.
Plenty of singleplayer games are from indies, those more or less support the developer.
I'm sure most pirates don't sit here and want a crack for a 10-20€ Indie Game. But a 80€ Game (sometimes even with additional microtransaktions like skins etc.) Yeah I see that.
Patient gamers represent! The older I get, the less I care about FOMO. The less I care about FOMO, the happier I am. It's a beautiful cycle.
/me goes back to playing snes games on an emulator
A lot of things in life are improved once you excise the FOMO mind cancer.
Refund and wait for a crack. Fuck Denuvo and fuck Bethesda for using them
You get what you pay for. You buy denuvo, you get denuvo.
Yet more evidence that the smartest thing you can do if the game comes from a AAA studio is hold off on buying it for 6-12 months.
Earlier this year, I got a game I liked on steam. Pretty much 3d Rimworld. After playing for 20 hours over a few weeks, I sporadically started getting errors about me having "no hardware activations" left for the game, and how I should wait 24 hours. I have never installed it on any other machine.
It is so very silly that a pirated copy would be the more seamless experience.
I remember when their DRM was just telling you that you'd go to HELL if you pirated it.
All this drm nonsense ever does is punishes the paying customers and maybe delays cracked version by a few days, but fucking pencil pushers still put it into everything.
you aren't buying doom because it has denuvo. im not buying doom because i am boycotting microsoft products. we are probably a little similar
This is why native support still matters. Anything not supported can pull the rug out from under you at any time.
Except for when glibc updates and breaks games with native support (but not the ones running through a compatibility layer). Although that definitely happens way less than devs purposefully pushing changes that break on Linux.
I never buy/install games with Denuvo. Guess it will be a while before I'm playing this.
anti-consumer feature is anti-consumer. more news at 11
I'm more and more convinced that Doom 2016 was the peak. Eternal had that one song that kicked ass but that was mostly it.
While it has Denuvo it can get fucked, they'll remove it in a few years, I'm a very patient gamer with a family group that has 1.5k games in library.
Denuvo identifies a user opening a game with multiple versions of Proton as multiple machines. It thinks that's piracy and locks the user out of the game
Fuck Microsoft. They enshittify everything and they support a genocide by helping to select targets to murder. No game is worth supporting this.
Aside from screwing Linux users, they're also screwing AMD users with forced ray-tracing + broken FSR, and I'd imagine there's also a lot of overlap there.
That probably explains all of the crashes reported by windows users too. ID Software what happened? You were supposed to be the chosen one.
Owned by zenimax, owned by microsoft. Same owners of activision blizzard. Shafted Mick Gordon. So this is kinda 100% as expected.
Gonna be honest, if Dark Ages represents the future of Doom: Doom died with Eternal. I've played probably 75% of the game and it's enough to turn me off of every future title.
Edit: Bizarre fucking takes in this thread. How many of you that liked DA played on controller?
Final edit: liking Dark Ages and disliking Eternal is like preferring lunchables to a NYC slice.
Hard disagree. Doom Eternal was a rhythm game disguised as an FPS and I hated it. It's crazy to me how widely acclaimed it was even over Doom 2016, which I thought was amazing. I'm glad they shifted back towards a more grounded FPS style that doesn't force you to juggle your entire weapon arsenal nonstop the entire game.
Seeing this pains me, especially considering Id Software's history with Linux. Prior to being bought by Bethesda, most of Id's games had official native Linux ports. Even Doom 3 had a native Linux port, it doesn't seem to work anymore but there are source ports like Dhewm3 available for it.
Only way for this to change is to vote with your (virtual) feet and wallet and "cancel" games that have DRM, in my opinion.
I get paid today and was gonna pick this up tonight... Guess it's back to Oblivion then!
Man, they're taking the "dark ages" part seriously.
Well cool, now I know not to pick up the game yet.
Didn't fall for it, even when they whisper sweet little lies in my ear, I just say to myself, I quit gaming. I'm done. If I can't own it, I ain't playing it. And now I just joined the class war. Because you know, there is no war but the class war.