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[–] [email protected] 17 points 14 hours ago

We are like a CO2 bomb, there has never been so much put into the air in such a small time scale, what usually takes 1000s and millions of years we did in ~100 years.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Careful how you phrase this. The right wing anti-woke crusaders will retort "oh, so you're saying this level of CO2 is natural after all?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

The level is natural, just not the amount of time that it took to get here from pre industrial levels. It will continue to climb as well.

[–] ininewcrow 61 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Earth for millions of years was a paradise with a stable climate ... and it would have stayed that way for millions of more years unless it got hit by an asteroid or major geo-tectonic events happened.

But we managed to screw it up in about 100 years

[–] [email protected] 52 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Just think of all that value created for shareholders!

[–] ininewcrow 19 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

I keep imagining some stock financial ticker tape system that keeps operating on its own even after we're gone and our environment can no longer sustain life.

Nothing is alive any more ... but the ticker tape keeps pumping along, raising the price of the whatever its counting and generating imaginative wealth that no one will ever understand.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

And so, WALL-ST-E, was born

[–] ininewcrow 3 points 16 hours ago

lol ... beautiful

but ... WALL-E-ST ... sounds better

[–] [email protected] 13 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Most trades now are done by bots looking at ticker symbols, they don't need human intervention. The human race can vanish from the Earth and the bots will keep trading as long as the datacenters have power.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

This sounds so ..Doug Adams.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I saw a depressing comic like that.. civilization has collapsed, no humans left, and the invisible hand of the market keeps raising prices.

I tried to find it for you but there are a lot of invisible hand of the market comics and I’m not good enough to find it :(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

But we managed to screw it up in about 100 years

Fuck yeah we did 💪

Take that dolphins!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

Hmm, "millions of years" is technically correct but "paradise" is very much in the eye of the beholder, and "stable" is really only valid if you're considering very short and selective time windows...

https://all-geo.org/highlyallochthonous/2007/11/how-the-air-we-breathe-became-breathable/

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Evolution-of-the-composition-of-the-Earths-atmosphere-through-geological-time-Catling_fig3_368716310

Or rather, the longest stable period we're aware of is when the atmosphere was full of methane.

[–] ininewcrow 25 points 21 hours ago

The thing is that ... WE .. caused the change ... the negative change that will severely affect all human lives now and into the future.

It's like we started the truck engine inside our enclosed garage and we are arguing with each other that we don't want to turn off the engine, no matter how lightheaded we are getting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

gestures at all of observed reality

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 hours ago

If it's so unstable, I wonder how it's still here for you to observe?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Not trying to be morbid, but bluntly...

As a US'ian, between current US politics and Climate Change, I take much solace in the fact there are significantly fewer days in front of me than there are behind me.

🤷‍♂️ 💩

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago

why any person would choose to bear progeny only to immerse them into this inescapable sea of poison and suffering, one cannot understand.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

AI can fix it.

(Or make it worse as we race to power it.)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago

AI won't even care since AI doesn't have to breathe. Why do we think a sentient AI would actually give a fucking shit about human interests at all? Its about as absurd in believing in a loving God who wants to save us, except it's the hubris of thinking we can create that God.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Welp I think my generation will bring down the life expectancy for the first time in 50 years after so much CO2 we inhale every single day

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

CO2 isn't dangerous to inhale until after 1000 ppm, so we've still got a way to go for in the inhaling department.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You probably know better than me, but I've surely seen statistics showing people who live in CO2-polluted cities having a lower life expectancy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

CO2 is just one piece of the puzzle in air pollution