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As tensions escalate between California and the Trump administration over immigration, another potential battlefront is emerging over taxes.

The spat began with reports that the Trump administration is considering cutting funding for California's university system, the largest higher education system in the nation with about 12% of all U.S. enrolled students.

In response, Gov. Gavin Newsom wrote Friday afternoon in a social media post that California provides about $80 billion more in taxes to the federal government than it receives in return.

"Maybe it's time to cut that off, @realDonaldTrump," Newsom said.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 hours ago

MOTHERFUCKING DO IT

Stop bending the knee to a felon rapist traitor who uses the military to assault American citizens.

Stop providing welfare to failing red states who elect felon rapist traitors who target blue states.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 hours ago

CA is the forth largest economy; it would destroy the red state fuckheads if they stopped paying federal taxes. The rest of us follow suit and we defund the motherfuckers stinking up the government.

If you are sending our military against OUR OWN FUCKING PEOPLE we should not be PAYING FOR IT. My taxes don't go to that fascist bullshit

🖕🤬🖕 Fuck drumpf and every bootlicker that got him (probably illegally) elected

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Ok, this is an idea I had after reading numerous comments on this post. You're all asking how this would work ... hear me out.

California declares its own currency, the "California dollar". Wages earned in California dollars wouldn't be taxed like US Dollars.

There are some issues to work out; I think the IRS does tax your foreign assets ... some ... but I think that this scheme could work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 45 minutes ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago)

Economically, it would be an uphill battle. The US dollar is strong because it's backed by decades of sound monetary policy (that will go right out the window when jerome powell's tenure is up) and a AAA credit rating for treasury bonds (that will disappear when the Republicans in congress finally drive us off a cliff) . A Californian dollar would be untrustworthy for a while as its central bank would need time to build trust

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

I honestly don't know how this is even possible. Doesn't the withholding go directly to the IRS? The issue of federal income tax is between the federal government and the taxpayer.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

So private prison giant GEO group Donates heavily to Trump‘s campaign. Trump has ice indiscriminately pick people up for “deportation“ where they are sent to prisons run by GEO group. Concerned citizens protest ICE actions in California. Trump illegally deploys national guard without the consent of California's government to attack law abiding citizens in California. Gavin Newsome, Liberal democrat and defender of capitalism, uses legal tactics to fight back against illegal activities. To me this act rings hollow. Please someone tell me what I am missing, because I would love to have a glimmer of hope these days.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

I’m not sure how legal it is for CA to stop paying taxes. At the very least, it’s an attempt to attack where it hurts, which is in the money.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago

Trump does not give one rat fuck of an ass about the law. Why the fuck should anyone do anything for the federal government and pay taxes at this point?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

Technically trump's presidency is illegal. But here we are.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Calexit is becoming less and less of a meme every day.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

I'd be so God damn happy if we left this shithole nation. And opened up for refugees of the failed state of America.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

But it's what they want... It's part of the plan... even just the idea to cause uncertainty and confusion... They want to enact material law... running is a choice but fighting fascist racist felon dictators is the only real choice and if they can delay the elections because of civil unrest or whatever bullshit they are trying...

California is basically its own country it has everything it needs... But you can't fight trump like a politician.... You have to play his game and beat him... He's a bully and a coward... Saying we won't pay taxes does nothing to protect the people on the streets

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

So what I'm hearing is... Deploy the Cali National guard to DC and Mar a Lago to defend Trump and the government from unrest in L.A.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

I mean that would never happen but sounds like a good time

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I see. So, part of the plan to take it over as an independent nation-state run as a neo-feudal technocracy that Curtis Yarvin has advocated?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 hours ago (6 children)

Been saying that we’re headed for balkanization since the clown won his first term. Not seeing any reason to change that prediction.

[–] lobut 43 points 8 hours ago

balkanization

For uninformed people like myself:

Balkanization is the process of a country or region fragmenting into smaller, often hostile units, typically driven by ethnic, cultural, religious, or geopolitical differences. The term originates from the Balkan Peninsula, a region that has experienced significant fragmentation throughout history, and the term is now used more broadly to describe similar processes elsewhere.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Feel free to join Canada my friends.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 43 minutes ago

I remember seeing it as "america" vs "dumbfuckistan"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

Breaks down when you start seeing all the blueberries in the ketchup and you realize that's where huge portions of the population actually live.

So much of that red state territory is vacant real estate. A big chunk more is functionally disenfranchised (Indian reservations, migrant labor communities, large prison populations).

This illustrates regions of political control. But it is in no way reflective of homogeneous popular opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I’m neither rich nor skilled enough :( If I was I’d be up there like yesterday

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