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Over the past few decades, the number of Americans who identify as religiously unaffiliated—often referred to as “nones”—has grown rapidly. In the 1970s, only about 5% of Americans fell into this category. Today, that number exceeds 25%. Scholars have debated whether this change simply reflects a general decline in belief, or whether it signals something more complex. The research team wanted to explore the deeper forces at play: Why are people leaving institutional religion? What are they replacing it with? And how are their personal values shaping that process?

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[–] [email protected] 178 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Well, my whole life, I've lived in a society where organized Christianity has overwhelmingly been a force for evil, rather than a force for good. Fuck, I straight-up believe that most Evangelical Christians are devil worshipers. If your religion leads you to hate, you aren't worshiping God, you're worshiping the Devil.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Christianity is, by definition, a cult of human sacrifice.

Kinda puts the entire faith into perspective.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

They ritualistically eat the body and blood of their god/savior.

Let that sink in.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Well, they were in luck... he's only mostly dead. If he was all the way dead, it wouldn't have worked. but Mostly dead? Miracle Max can work with that.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No. The christoan God is evil. They're doing exactly as their religion demands.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

I support a few religious organizations through volunteer work.

My rules for these organizations are simple:

  1. The religion takes a back seat to helping the community
  2. They're not preachy or trying to convert people
  3. They don't diddle little kids.

You'd think it'll be easy to meet that criteria.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How would you even know if #3 was true or not, it's not like they advertise it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

We could.. weigh them? And, if they weigh as much as a duck, then we know they are kiddie fiddlers!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

I'm curious which is more common a failing #3 or #2.

most christian charity or aid orgs are mostly about that captive audience.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Only one I can think of is Unitarian Universalist for all 3. Maybe some sort of Buddhism? Though probably have broken #3 and are very big/organized.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I do volunteer for a Unitarian church and a Buddhist temple! Nailed it.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

there is literally nothing that religion can provide that can't be gotten without religion

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For real. You can just buy those styrofoam wafers and some cheap wine if you really want them. You don't have to go to church.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

I guess messed up ideas about sexuality and consent in general aren’t strictly under their purview. Or, subservience to arbitrary authority figures.

What about rape in a rectory? Probably doesn’t happen too often outside of a religious context.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

insight into why.

Because it's not fucking real?

This isn't rocket surgery.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That hasn't become any more or less true in recent years, though. It's worth asking why people are now thinking of the idea differently than they did for the past several thousand

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Well I suppose there's still no proof that there never was a so-called "divine Y-chromosome" as believed in by Christians, but before we knew about DNA, or even human cells, the ridiculous legends of religion were definitely harder to refute. The ridiculousness of those legends was a big part of their power - the more stupid and unhinged a religious story appears to us today, the more in awe believers would have been about it 300 or 400 years ago.

So while religion hasn't become less real in recent years, it has become a lot easier to point out its absurdities.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago

Lmao because it's horse shit that's why

Source: me, a 37-yo exmormon who was all-in, true believer, until his mid 20s.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago

The faster the better. It’s fundamentalists creating a lot of the problems in the world as they try to force their beliefs on others.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Because it's all horseshit?

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Good for them.

These ancient lies designed for crowd control have been horrible these past thousand years.

Not that modern political groups or sects etc are much better...

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago

My guess is that the extreme hatred flowing out of outspoken "Christians" in the US is a huge turn-off, as it should be.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Because I don't need God to be a good person, or know what good morals are.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

Not to mention you'll do a better job at it if you think for yourself on the subject rather than delegating it to a spiritual leader with potentially dubious agendas

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago

Part of this is just that the socially conservative pressure to fit in has eased. Time was you had to be "religious" to fit in to communities and it was seen as part of American identity.

I find it hard to believe 75% of Americans are religious. In the UK 37% identify as non religious. 45% identify as Christian yet churches have emptied our and most young people only end up in one for marriages or funerals. People say they're Christian but I have no doubt a large chunk of those people are just ticking a box on a census form as it's part of their identity.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

Because it's a grift?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

Better understanding of the physical world than previous generations, for one thing. That and the advent of TV and Internet made it much harder to hide the hypocrisy and crimes.

[–] MangioneDontMiss 19 points 2 weeks ago

because its bullshit?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

should be happening with gen z and alpha too, but gen z has more right wingers than previous generations, due to significant propaganda.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

No no no, this ancient religion from the Middle East based off of several other cultures mythology is the TRUTH!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Everyone, myself included always come back to the same reason - there is no proof.

If I was given actual proof of a god or pantheon or any other ridiculous nonsense I’d absolutely change my mind but actual proof magic exists can’t exist because magic isn’t real

I fully accept that I don’t and can’t truly understand the universe but where the fuck does that somehow morph into “god did it” it’s ok not to know everything I don’t need made up bullshit to fill the gaps so I can feel better about not having every answer. Live with not knowing, that’s what being human is meant to be, acceptance

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

I feel like the unloved sect is really the unitarian universalists. They're basically a doctrine free "church" of social justice. Like, I love going sometimes and just getting more advice on how to be an excellent human to others. And then we have snacks.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I feel like they're missing an important point

Most organized religions blue the line between clergy and god so followers need to believe their religious leaders are pretty close to infallible, like God is claimed to be.

However with modern society, information is easy to get and everywhere. So people know about organized religion's issues, and without that structure and reinforcement, we see a slower but substantial reduction in general belief in God that will continue for generations as less people are indoctrinated into organized religion at a young age.

Not sure why the author acts like it's a mystery

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Most organized religions blue the line between clergy and god so followers need to believe their religious leaders are pretty close to infallible, like God is claimed to be.

It's because the fundamental purpose of religion is control for the purpose of concentrating power.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Here's my theory why:

  • People nowadays have higher average education and can much more easilly spot the logical inconsistences in Religion.
  • People are so overexposed and overwhelmed by swindles in the modern era that they are more naturally spotting the swindle nature of ancient swindles such as Religion.
[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Gen-Z is all about it though. Gen-Z is stupid and backwards… voting for Trump, going to church. What a bunch of losers.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

For their study, Schnabel and his colleagues used data from the National Study of Youth and Religion. This included four waves of longitudinal survey data and 183 in-depth interviews conducted from 2003 to 2013. The sample included over 1,300 individuals, each tracked from adolescence into young adulthood. [...] The number of respondents attending religious services dropped dramatically between 2003 and 2013.

The study used data that's 12 years old! Millennials are not young adults anymore. At this point it's well known that Americans, especially the younger cohorts, are moving away from religion, so why even bother reanalyzing ancient data?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is very useful to reanalyze old data. Recently, a study came out that concluded that we have misunderstood the role of nutrition and calories in fitness, and it examined studies over a period of decades to come to the conclusions. You don't always need new data to make new conclusions.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For me it's because religion is brain cancer that fucks up anyone who takes it seriously.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

To understand these trends more fully, the researchers analyzed interview data from 54 participants whose religious involvement had significantly declined over the decade.

These interviews revealed a recurring theme: many young people left institutional religion not because they stopped caring about spirituality, but because they felt a growing disconnect between their personal values and the teachings or practices of religious organizations. They spoke of churches that felt judgmental, hypocritical, or out of touch—particularly on issues of gender and sexuality. Participants described feeling alienated by institutions that seemed to limit, rather than support, their pursuit of authenticity, justice, and self-understanding.

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