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[–] [email protected] 18 points 20 hours ago

In France, if a foreigner serving in the French Foreign Legion was injured in combat, he is automatically declared Français par le sang versé. Meaning French by spilled blood. When he is given medical treatment the first form he is to fill out as soon as he is able is an application of French citizenship which will be automatically granted.

I honestly cannot think of a bigger show of loyalty than that. What kind of impression do they think they are making?

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago

They're willing to deport a fucking veteran who took two bullets for his country, they'll deport anyone, including YOU.

Pure unadulterated evil.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The guy embodies everything right with the system. Jumped through all the hoops. “Rehabilitated” himself despite prison. Followed the rules. Became, for a second time, a productive member of society.

And they sent him away after decades here to a country he doesn’t even know.

I can’t even think about the mental gymnastics engaged in by the pro-military repugnicans who also say “if immigrants came here legally they would be fine…” They probably don’t even bother. Just shrug anf move on.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Fuck every Republican piece of shit who enabled this to happen. Fuck all who refused to vote in the most consequential presidential election so far. Fuck everyone who said Harris wasn't worth voting for. We're kicking people out who took a bullet for this country with such callousness and the average American citizen just simply shrugs their their shoulders and carry on. What is wrong with us?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

What is wrong with us?

Apathy, hopelessness, ignorance, and, in the case of GOP voters, malice.

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 2 days ago (5 children)

This is a reminder that military service does provide for naturalized citizenship, but it is not automatic. This is not well explained, if at, all by leadership.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 days ago

At this point, if you’re trying to become a US citizen, you’re a fucking moron. That’s like swimming up to a sinking ship on fire. Few places have a darker future than the US. God I fucking hate this country.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Honestly I'm not sure "service guarantees citizenship" is a good path to go down.

[–] No_Eponym 4 points 1 day ago

service guarantees citizenship

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Service guarantees getting fucked

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

But equally for citizens and non-citizens.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would like to learn more.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That was the one thing that I appreciated about being assigned as the "medical and unusual yeoman." I may have been a recruit like the rest of them, but my RDCs gave me everyone's paperwork, and told me to make sure that all appointments were made and kept. I guaranteed that all 15 of the enlisted immigrants got that paperwork signed in triplicate, and forwarded to their OOB. I was then a thorn in those OOBs sides emailing them every six months until I got confirmation of US citizenship for all 15 of my shipmates.

Every other thing about that particular duty was an absolute PITA

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My squadron had a lot of immigrants in it for how small it was, and they were all better sailors than most. I'm glad that some immigrants had someone like you fighting for them, it's not an easy path to take

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Damn straight. Every immigrant observed with was a better sailor than most of the homegrown, and most of them were just plain better Americans than the majority of people born here. They all were doing everything they could to make their lives and others lives better.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

I learned this by asking questions after Starship Troopers

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ramos says 38% of the U.S. military are noncitizens, and believes thousands are being deported for non-violent crimes.

Holy shit that's wild. I had no idea the numbers were that high. I always knew the military targeted poor people, but didn't realize how nearly half of them weren't citizens.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Tried to dig around a bit, it seems a number the military doesn't keep very good or active track of. Seems to trend in the single percentages though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I had no idea the numbers were that high.

They're definitely not. First hand experience tells me that when a soldier enlists during in processing they start the process for naturalization. I saw several recruits that came in with me go through the paperwork with a drill instructor. If this 38% is "real" then it must be "all time". But modern military for sure it is not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I think the 38% number is definitely wrong, maybe even wrong by one order of magnitude.

I tried fact-checking and came up with this:

https://providencemag.com/2018/04/what-a-country-immigrants-serve-us-military-well

Few Americans realize that 65,000 immigrants serve in the US military today. That number includes some 18,700 troops who hold green cards (in other words, legal permanent residents who are not yet naturalized citizens). According to the Pentagon, about 5,000 such residents enlist each year.

Since the total number of the US armed forces is around 1.3 million, it follows that 38% is definitely wrong and the correct number of immigrants is likely around 5%.

I think the 38% number originates from service member naturalization stats or service member family stats and has been mis-interpreted. Can't tell for sure, didn't hire a spy to find out. :)

P.S. Edit: found a secondary source with similar data:

https://www.usafis.org/can-i-join-the-us-military-as-a-green-card-holder/

Approximately 8,000 Green Card holders join the US military each year and around 35,000 are currently serving on active duty.

Since green card holders aren't the only variety of immigrant, the number 65 000 seems plausible.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

“People were saying, ‘You took two bullets for this country. Like you’re more American than most of the Americans living in America,’” he said.

Seems like you should get honorary citizenship at that point. He’s put in the work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

His mistake was working hard and trusting the military would look out for him. He should've found a rich person to marry

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago (1 children)

per trump he's a "sucker" and a "loser".

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The “Thank-you for your service” types currently rallying behind this man I'm guessing?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago

No. The racism beats out their fervent patriotism.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

"Fake news"

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Americans have this weird fetish for veterans. Not so much that they would actually treat them decently, though. What people tend to forget is that these people work to maintain the exact same system that screws them over once they are no longer useful.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago

Veterans were also victims of the orphan crushing machine, usually recruited from impoverished areas with the promise of a stable job, health care, and education. They were once broke high school kids from podunk towns with zero opportunities for upward mobility. I think the left in America is missing a huge opportunity to take advantage of the fetishization of veterans. A few charismatic veterans who espouse a leftist platform can lend a lot of pathos for the cause from the view of the average 'red-blooded American.'

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

It’s mostly performative.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

They love saying it, but they sure hate voting to support them.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If they're coming after non citizens for drug use how long until they come after citizens for the same? How long until they're rounding up every medical marijuana patient?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

All those for profit prisons will start to look empty and lose money.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

On the bright side, he hasn't been spirited away to a Salvadorian concentration camp without due process. In Nazi America, that counts for something.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

What the actual fuck.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i hope he still gets his veterans benefits

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He is gonna have some difficulty getting to the VA for medical services.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

he's also supposed to get a stipend every month...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, and he will still receive his pay wherever he lives.

hte medical benefits are a huge part of the compensation though, especially at his age.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

And until this regime, the VA was getting better...

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