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Experts say annexing by 'economic force' involves more than just tariffs

The first shots of the trade war between the United States and Canada have been fired.

Whether it escalates beyond the planned 25 per cent tariff into a wider economic war depends upon how genuinely serious President Donald Trump is about annexation, experts say.

Tariffs are one thing. While painful and destructive, experts agree duties alone would not crush the Canadian economy, nor the political establishment, into submission.

Prior to his inauguration, Trump threatened to use "economic force" to compel Canada to become the 51st state in the union.

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What does a full-blown economic war look like? Think sanctions, import and export restrictions, trade embargoes, theft of intellectual property.

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[–] floofloof 76 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I can't believe we're two weeks into Trump's presidency and already people are seriously discussing whether the USA is going to take over our country by force. Canada and the USA's other former allies needs to do everything they can to forge new trade relations that leave the USA out of the picture. Otherwise the Trump-Putin axis will be ready to swallow us all.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

As an ashamed American, I fully support your position!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Bro... There is no public support for this beyond useful idiots and fringes.

I can't see military following such orders either.

[–] pedz 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The US government already didn't care what the public supports or not. They were already financing an unpopular genocide. That orange dictator is replacing key people with idiots loyal to him and his cause. So it won't get better.

Times and times again people have defended that orange turd, saying we were misinterpreting, or he was joking, or that he couldn't do that, only for him to do it, and get away without any consequences.

If you think this is not a serious possibility, you have not been paying attention.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

His SecDef is also floating massive restructuring within the military, likely to make it easier for orders to flow down from the top without obstruction from people who might have pesky things like a conscience.

[–] floofloof 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I can absolutely see the US military following those orders once Trump has replaced all the top brass with his cultists and the alternative is the harshest punishment they can come up with.

And as for no public support, half the electorate just voted him back in after he spent weeks talking every day about how he would annex Canada. I suspect there are many tens of millions of Americans who support it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Misleading. He got about the same vote count as last time. He didn't win, Harris lost by running as a Republican in service to capital.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

20 million stay at homes were effectively voting trump so

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If he keeps firing Generals , he won’t be president for very long.

[–] adespoton 2 points 1 week ago

Musk will just replace them with some cadets who worked for him as interns.

[–] adespoton 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I couldn’t see the US electing Trump a first or second term either, but here we are.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Give them 4 years of sowing discontent..