Christians are fucking ghouls.
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Eh. Depends on the Christian. Same with every group of people, you're always gonna have a mixed bag of people who are good, people who are bad and people who are just existing. The bad ones are just louder.
Edit: It is genuinely concerning how so many of you are so willing to use blatantly bigoted lines of thought to hate a group. How you're defending blatant discrimination and bigotry. It is funny. You complain about Christians as a group being ghouls while failing to recognize that you're in the same camp. You're doing the same thing they are. You are just as bad as the thing you're complaining about but you don't have an excuse to try and fall back on. You aren't doing it because you misunderstood a book. You're doing it because you're hateful little bigots.
You're embarassments. Children screaming into the night about other Children. Grow the fuck up, the both of you.
Have never met one that wasn't truly awful! But maybe that's just Texas.
You've probably met many who weren't awful at all. But being not awful, you likely wouldn't even be aware that they are Christians.
My guess is that you have countless times but just never knew it. The good Christians are people who believe what they believe, take those lessons to heart and try to help other people to just help people. They don't do it looking for praise or for people to join their Church. They do it because they want to be a good person. Because they care about other people. They may have learned that lesson differently or adapt the lesson plan to their own life but they're just people who want to be good people. That's it. They don't normally wear a badge on their sleeve that says "I'm a Christian!"
One of my best friends is a Christian. I'm not, I'd call myself more of an apatheist. I'll find out what happens when I die but until then there isn't a point worrying about it. I'm just going to try to live a life I can be proud of. Doesn't mean I'll get it right all the time and I might fuck up a lot but i'm trying. Christians just do the same thing, they just have an extra boost in their life. Me and my friend have never really talked about religion because we don't need to. I'm aware of the fact that he's religious just like he's aware of the fact that I'm not. Same way I know he doesn't care for curling but that I enjoy it.
Yea, don't lecture me on my experience as a neurodivergent gay man in Texas. Even the more low key Christians still get heinous when you hold hands with your boyfriend.
Don't equate your limited geographical experience to a far reaching universal trend. Could be a vocal minority, could be just your region, could be recency bias.
I literally said in my original comment that "Maybe it's just Texas." Which acknowledged my limited geographical experience. I was literally making a comment on my own personal experience, not a universal truth. Please read.
Southern evangelicals are definitely the worst of the bunch, but up north there are some pretty cool Christian organizations. My fav is the Moravian church, which sprouted from an internal crisis in catholicism once they started printing the Bible in languages other than Latin.
The Moravians basically came to the realization that what the church said and what the Bible said weren't congruent. So they decided to reinterpret the Bible, but couldn't agree on anything but Jesus prob wanted people to help others. So the whole church is based around disregarding theological conflict and instead just focusing on serving the community.
I appreciate this rational take. As a Christian, I disagree with the "persecuted Christianity" narrative that the Roman Catholic Church aggressively pushes. Just like the above commenter is likely focusing on the vocal minority and ignoring everything else, I think the Catholic Church is focusing on the vocal minority and pushing this narrative for their own gain. And statements like the above commenter serve to reinforce that.
Can confirm am in Texas and family are ghouls
if you think texas is bad, try oklahoma. There's a reason it's considered the buckle of the bible belt.
in my (limited) experience, catholics tend to be less shitty than protestants, with the whole 'prove your faith with deeds' thing.
Also depends if you meet just one Christian and have an honest respectful conversation.
Or a mob of Christians trying to out-Christian one another
Fun fact, the origin story for Satan that so many churches point to just isn’t in the Bible.
The entire concept of hell is basically just fan fiction.
The entire concept of religion is a fan fiction.
Yeah... it is astounding how mixed messages get when people are holding the bloody source material in their hands.
Most Christian ideas about hell are from Dante and Milton laundered through loony toons. And in Milton's version, Satan is the protagonist.
I had to explain to someone here on Lemmy that Satan in Job is a rival god, rather than the Satan Christians think, of since it came from before Judaism was monotheistic. The word literally just means 'adversary.' Job is about two gods having a wager. But Christians (and the rest of the western world by extension) are ignorant of the fact that the largest role anyone called Satan has in the Bible has nothing to do with Christian mythology.
And then they decide to conflate the serpent in the Garden of Eden with Satan because reasons.
Edit: Note to self. Do not try to write longer posts with your phone.
Do you have something to read up on there? That sounds interesting.
This is from college classes decades ago, so I can't find you something offhand. I would definitely have been able to tell you more back in the 1990s.
Edit: I do remember that Job starts out with God gathering his sons together. I think possibly the adversary is meant to be one of these sons, who would obviously be gods themselves. But they are interpreted as angels today. Again, because reasons.
Obligatory HAIL SATAN
Remember to reapply your sataniser after each encounter with a cult member.
And God was the one who never suggested equality but subservience for women.
I think I'll go with the prince of darkness .... HAIL SATAN!!
And history is usually written by the victor; so how do we know that God is the actual good guy, and not just the asshole who won and told everyone how cool he is and how shit the other guy was? I mean, God's done some pretty fucked up shit and he's killed more people than Satan ever did.
I’ve been saying this for a decade+
If I was evil, I would write a book saying how good I am and trying to indoctrinate myself into people.
Satan is most likely the good guy who rejected his racist, facist father.
I mean, if that was God's plan, he did a piss poor job. The Bible makes him look like a narcissistic petulant child.
So, like Trump, Musk, Putin, Kim Jong-Un,...?
Pretty much every (wanna-be) dictator was/is a narcissistic petulant child.
Yup, exactly.
Nobody ever accused him of being good at it
A church has no right to tell me how to treat others when it's named after a sex position.
As a member of the "church of the subgenius", I'm curious about that position.
Good guy Lucifer. Punishes evildoers for all eternity, but somehow he's the bad guy.
Christianity is a cult and a scam.
Sometimes even good people fall for it. The good ones have enough reason to be loud and shut the bad ones up. But that not going to happen. It’s a toxic support system that they can’t go against or be kicked out.
Christianity needs to disbanded just like every cult denying reality and hurting others.
Of course it's a Baptist church with a sign like that. Guarantee you it's in a sundown town, too.
Yikes, talking about hitting AND completely missing the point
If you worship a cosmic tyrant don't be upset if some people balk at the idea.
I don't understand if that sign is pro or against Satan
Don't judge an entire group by the loud assholes they have within when the good ones have no reason to be loud.
Yeah, judge them by their (in)actions and how they treat others.
.....huh, still not super great on the whole. One of the many reasons I left the church...