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I mean that's what they asked for. They've seen how Putin operates and Trump has shown great admiration for his methods. So they should assume he would use those kinds of threats and alleged follow-through.
Counterpoint, send credible death threats when they DON'T oppose Trump's policies.
Guess we'll just just have to threaten them even more physically to get the results we want then
Fascists are cowards. We know this.
When this tension pops,
People are going to start being killed.
Please be safe
So what you're saying is they aren't afraid enough of the other side.
Nothing that cannot be helped or fixed.
Basically, lawmakers just advance the interests of whoever is most likely to kill them, real great country we have here.
What has become of watering the good old tree of democracy? Are those politicians afraid it might be their turn? Tsk, tsk.
Wait until the threats against them for criticizing Trump and those for not protecting their subsidies and pork barrels cross the equilibrum and start to shift the balance.
That's what fascism feels like.
You're not allowed to say that or invoke Hitler until we're all in gas chambers! You're only allowed to call it out after it happens! You're supposed to believe the liars until people start writing the history of the events!
-Magoos
Historically, the problem of "this is just like Hitler!!!" has been the way in which it numbs people to the invocation.
That is, in no small part, the appeal among conservatives of calling everyone from Hegel to Whole Foods a form of creeping fascism. Putting every liberal politician (and a fair number of conservatives) in Hitler Cosplay helped diminish the idea of an authoritarian police state to seat belt laws and smoking bans.
The flip side is that stodgy NYT Op-Ed Writers who casually reject that any fascist impulse exists at all. Everyone from Fransisco Franco to Sheriff Joe Arpaio was just interested in Law & Order. The game of explaining why a given genocidal policy or nakedly fascist aesthetic is actually something different, you idiot, you imbecile, goes right up to the point of denying migrant detention camps along the border and mass extermination of Semitic people in the Middle East and trillionaires doing the "Roman" salute are what they clearly appear to be.
In the end
gets you coming and going.
It becomes a casual invective to describe even the most mildly distasteful political views and a "you're just being hysterical" rebuttal to any policy that is quite literally adopting mass extermination.
Yep. Fascism doesn't work without a dedicated cult of personality, and that's exactly what Trump has with his legion of MAGA asshole-idiots who are willing to commit violence for their messiah.
They can't kill all of us.
What do you think they develop AI for?
How so? Do you own any guns to protect us?
No. Can I have one of yours?
Because if we actually did what they did for the Civil Rights, show up to DC in the hundreds of thousands, they wouldnt have the balls to call the military death squads. Without even entering, we would win. No man is without fear. Everyone is scared. You either allow the fascists to take over or you dont. There is no path that allows a peaceful way forward without action.
They would absolutely call the military death squads.
They can literally try
I mean, that's like 3 or 4 missiles from a helicopter or drone. The US military would logistically have no problem taking out that many people.
Tiananmen Square had like 1.5m people at one point. Thousands hurt or killed. But that was just army tanks and soldiers.
They didn't have any of the fancy dispersal shit they do now.
Plus if there were ever a march the size of the March on Washington, they'd close access to DC.
No bridge crossings, no ferries, no subways.
The Civil Rights protestors didnt care about any of this (though they couldn't care about Tiananmen yet).
They had a commander in chief that supported them. So long as they kept their word, he did
Remember when his wife made her cause ‘fight against bullying’
So then you're saying they need more threats from constituents for supporting Trump?
🇺🇸Nuke the GOP🇺🇲
Some GOP lawmakers reportedly faced FBI warnings of credible death threats for opposing Trump-backed nominees.
I'm not saying it's not entirely true because we've been hearing about this for years. But given who is in charge of the FBI now, I wonder how many of these "credible threats" are actually credible vs. how many of them are actually just made up by Patel to make sure they stay in line.
That said, it's one thing for a civilian to not want to put themselves in a position where they could be harmed. They didn't sign up for that. Civilians are largely in no position to do anything about it. But Senators and Representatives? This is literally what they fucking signed up for. This is what we grossly overpay them for. This is why we spend so much for their security. We elected these people and empowered them to do what we can't.
Maybe if we start seeing a couple of these town halls full of angry people exercising their 2nd Amendment rights live and in real time, they might get the message.
I’m not saying it’s not entirely true because we’ve been hearing about this for years. But given who is in charge of the FBI now, I wonder how many of these “credible threats” are actually credible vs. how many of them are actually just made up by Patel to make sure they stay in line.
If the people saying there are death threats against you are the same ones who are supposed to investigate them: There are death threats against you. It just might be a fed holding the gun.
This is called ‘stochastic terrorism’. Publicly painting people in the most outrageous light until some of your acolytes feel called upon to realize the supposedly non-commital threats you made.
Fuck Trump. Fight the fascists.
.... until some of your ~~acolytes~~ deranged nut cases feel called upon .... - FTFY
This is called ‘~~stochastic~~ terrorism’.
It's carefully timed and targeted, thus no longer "stochastic"
Republicans: We're in charge!
Trump and ELon's SS:
You know, something like this can't happen in the USA because of the Second Amendment. I've learned this from countless of dudes on the internet that screamed endlessly about it, so this must all be a dream. Only woke nations line Nazi Germany can fall for this 🙄
So if there were threats against them for NOT standing up to him would it cancel the other threats out?
Is that true? I haven’t seen any Republican got hurt physically so far.
Tldr: Threats work and nothing will be done until they're more afraid of you than they are of fascists.
The tough-talking pro-gun people who, when your kid gets shot at school, says more guns are the answer, won't stick up for your kid or anything else out of fear that someone might send them a threatening message for doing so.
won’t stick up for your kid
Emphasis mine. Why would they give a fuck about someone else's kid? That is how conservatives actually think, including the ones that get fucking elected. It's literally their job and they still can't give a fuck about a thing until it literally happens to them.
The MAGA crowd are today's brown shirts. US democracy won't survive this term.
Knives are starting to feel extra long at night...
Pussies
Pretty soon they're going to be terrified of everyone for the same reason. Grow a spine, and do what's right for your country, not Krasnov
If a death threat makes you back down I want you out of my government. I'd consider it on par with treason or like a soldier going AWOL in combat.
Maybe we should make them more afraid of us than of them? If that's what they're signaling works.
This is one situation where I think telling someone to “man, the fuck, up” is appropriate.
Protect your family, yes. But, also protect the fucking country. Step aside if you can’t or don’t act the victim when the blowback hits you.