Perfect, I'd rather they step away and let us remake it into a n EU group.
Leaving the US inside the NATO still gives them veto rights.
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The US intentionally leaving the organizations they have domination over as a means to exert soft power globally would certainly be good for weakening the US Empire. This seems like a case where the architects of Empire failed to raise successors and as such the ones with the reigns are now "true believers" in the architects' web of lies.
If the US leaves the United Nations, does that mean they lose their security council veto power even if they somehow rejoin later?
Seems like something the other former global superpower, Russia, would be very happy to see happen.
I fail to see how this advances America's interests whatsoever. Republicans are huffing glue again.
That's a similar case to UK leaving the EU. They had a lot of provisions just for them - tax exempts etc. If UK decides to rejoin they will have to renegotiate the terms and EU will not want to grant them the same relief as they had in the past.
Nato is the only reason we European country bought those ultra expensive F35 paying billions to purchase and operate them.
I wonder what's going to happen to the new Gernan rifles of the US military.
They’ll get expensive.
This is not going to end well for Elon Musk.
Who gives a shit about him. This is not going to end well for everyone.
I sincerely hope not.
FYI: even North Korea is a member of the UN!
Even the vatican! Though be it as only an observer state
If you include that then Palestine as well
Palestinians have a legitimate claim to the land they live on. Of course it comes as no surprise that Israel did not support condemning Russias invasion of Ukraine.
I publicly support the unaliving of musk
Launch him into space
But not into the sun. It takes more energy to launch something into the sun Vs just into space.
Can we try to land him in his stupid fucking orbiting car or whatever
Send him to Mars with a camera and he can vlog his adventure I am sure the reality shows revenue could offset some costs.
Leaving NATO would cost the US over $100 billion in arms sales annually, so they won't do it. But to have and eat their cake they just don't need to honour article 5
To be perfectly honest they should probably kick the US out of it
Idk, Trump already tried it at the end of his last term. These people don't have the USA's best interests in mind.
If the US leaves the UN it permanently gives up its seat in the Security Council and its veto.
Russia magically inherited the USSR's security council seat even though they are not the USSR. When the US collapses, which part gets their old seat? (I vote we give it to Canada personally)
Russia was always Russia. It was the seat of the USSR so it just stayed with Russia. If the US withdraws it gives up its seat. Canada would happily accept a permanent seat on the Security Council with veto.
There are some with veto power who would oppose it transferring to anyone
Yeah, Russia took over the debts of the USSR as well, didn't they?
I imagine it would have to be another country with a large nuclear weapons stockpile. India comes to mind.
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FUCK THIS GUY SO HARD. I swear to god this lunatic needs to be stopped.
This lunatic is a danger for the world. He is an unelected unaccountable person with the power of the presidency. It’s terrifying.
Preferably a bullet
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Leaving the UN would mean giving up US veto power. This would be one of the stupidest decisions of all time. No wonder Elon wants to do it.
Name one time US veto power was used for good.
For making an argument to appeal to musk, that's besides the point. In fact because the veto power being used for bad it is probably is a more appealing point
Mostly it's just the USA vetoing anything including the word Palestine, except for this one time in March last year China vetoed something including the word Palestine so the USA didn't even get the chance. Here's a list of Vetoes with links to the documents HERE
warning: some of them can be a little doom-foreboding so maybe don't read it if you enjoy your sanity
Given the only UN Vetoes since 1989 were from USA, Russia, or China they haven't been used for much good in general, but there was this one time in January 1990 that they vetoed a denouncement by Nicaragua over the US invasion of Panama following the military general's takeover and abuse of power to deal in drugs and human trafficking.
Although there is the nuance that he, General Manuel Noriega, and other militant factions had ties to US Intelligence before that.
Although there is the nuance that he murdered those other factions upon taking power.
Although there is the nuance that he and others also had ties to multiple other intelligence agencies around the world.
Although there is the nuance that the only reason Nicaragua had anything to do with any of this is that the USA ended up moving troops through the Nicaraguan Embassy in Panama and beating up Nicaraguan Envoys who tried to stop them.
Although there is the nuance that the heavily armed US Troops in an active war zone showed great restraint in not seriously wounding or killing any of the men during the brawl.
Although there is the nuance that the US Troops supposedly stole a bunch of stuff while they were there.
Although there is the nuance that throughout all of this, the Nicaraguan envoy Ferrey spoke very favorably of Panama's then brutal, newly formed, militarty dictatorship who, as I mentioned before, ran a lot of drugs and human trafficking operations. The military were probably searching for somebody that they didn't find, assuming the Nicaraguan's to be co-conspirators.
Fun fact, the document LINK HERE still lists the full name of the USSR in 1990 lol.
Maybe they used it to object to serving English food for lunch once. That's probably the only time it'd be justified
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Will no one rid us of this treasonous billionaire?
Which treasonous billionaire? There's dozens to choose from.
Will no one rid me of these meddlesome billionaires, comrade
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