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This is one of many reasons that I want the US to stop being respected internationally. Their culture has some horrible issues that they don't need to spread around. We've got plenty of home-grown awfulness, thanks all the same.
Unfortunately it requires our government to take a strong position. To actually stand up publicly and tell the people of the UK. We will not tollerarate this return to the fascist playback used before ww2.
Without that librarians and soon store keepers etc will constantly face the threats and attacks of extremists groups. Claiming the same anti DEI and equality shit happening in doge.
Much like anti abortion protesters try to intimidated those that disagree with them protesting clinics etc.
That is exactly what is being attempted here. Racism prejudice and fear for the future is being weaponised by the right. If our gov dose not stand up to the actions now. The attempts in the US to override the legal system etc will follow. Reform or a reunigghting of the people who support it will turn into a trump like administration.
We saw the start of this when Boris tried to shut down parliment illegally. The attacks on the echr are the UK equiv of the claim we saw leading up to trump 1. IE the supreme Court has become political. Gaining the power to take control. Our right is doing the same by trying to eject us from the courts mandate.
Dear Evangelicals: Get. Fucked. Immediately.
before marriage? heathen!
Just as they say they do not want Sharia law in the UK, we should not support the spread of other extremist religious laws
Agreed.
But the issue is with both the words extremists and religious. No extremists thinks they are. Heck I can assure you most think our rejection is extream. And religiose people rarely admit their restrictions are religion. Even when using the Bible to justify shit. They will argue it is science or common sense.
Their is a need to term unacceptable laws in a way that forces them to openly argue their restrictions do not apply. Or actually are religious extremism. The latter is close to impossible.
Be honest with ourselves. I agree trans equality laws should exist. But only 20 or 30 years ago society as a majority society considered them extream. Some off us remember it even if we disagreed.
Gay marriage was def extream when I was in my teens. Gary rights at all in my parents teens. (They also disagreed)
And a very small % of any of those considered their religious ideals as a significant element.
My god man, what the fuck is wrong with your grammar?
Agreed.
But the issue is with both of the words extremist~~s~~ and religious. No ~~extremists~~ extremist thinks ~~that~~ they are one ~~. Heck~~ , heck, I can assure you that most think that our rejection of religion is ~~extream~~ extreme.
And ~~religiose~~ religious people rarely admit their restrictions ~~are~~ come from religion.
Even when using the Bible to justify shit, ~~They~~ they will argue it is actually science or common sense.
~~Their~~ There is a need to term ~~unacceptable~~ laws as unacceptable in a way that forces them to openly argue that their restrictions do not apply or that they are actually a form of religious extremism.
(what does this sentence mean?)
~~Or actually are religious extremism.~~ The latter is close to impossible.
Let's Be honest with ourselves ~~.~~, I agree that trans equality laws should exist ~~.~~ , but ~~only~~ 20 ~~or~~ to 30 years ago the majority of society ~~as a majority society~~ considered them to be ~~extream~~ extreme. Some ~~off~~ of us remember it even if we disagreed with that framing at the time.
Gay marriage was def ~~extream~~ extreme when I was in my teens ~~.~~ , ~~Gary~~ and in my parents' teens - gay rights ~~at all~~ in general were considered extreme in my parents teens , something which they did not agree with. ~~(They also disagreed.)~~
And a very small % of any of those opposed to these things considered their religious ideals as a significant element in their opposition.
They aren’t pressure groups they are hate groups.
Help me out here? Aren’t these the same groups calling for freedom of speech and against cancel culture. It’s all so confusing.
This is the “The only moral abortion is my abortion crowd”.
I think you'd find as many wanting Huckleberry Finn removed because it's racist as anything else. Woe betide anyone who thinks such books need to be around to teach future generations with.
Americans are puritans through and through. It doesn't matter what strain they are.
They just want their way, and only their way, no matter how contradictory it is.
As someone born in the uk I really think we’re too far gone and are just America a a decade or two behind on levels of dystopia.
I really wish they had their own language. It would make ignoring what they say so much more common.
American here, please guys…don’t become a U.S. vassal state and try to get back into the EU if you can.
Our government won't let us. 🥴
Secede. Become new eastern Irish protectorate or something. Secede and rejoin until the UK is literally just 10 Downing st. Then invade and hang their leader.
Lot harder to do that when like 90% of the country's wealth is in the south
I'd like to see some of that wealth 🤑
South east. West country doesn't have much wealth either.
“You don’t have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.”
-Vonnegut
They can apply pressure in groups to my knob
Wouldn’t it be nob?
Fuck that. Tell US pressure to go suck a fatty.
And let's not forget that the Guardian has had no qualms to participate in transphobic witchhunting for years. No matter what hand-wringing they now do, they share a part of the responsibility for it coming this far and probably won't stop pushing transphobia either...
Guardian-reading lefty here. You got any links to actual transphobic articles in the Guardian itself? I've been reading it for years, and have never noticed anything like that, particularly it being a stance. Would be very disappointed in them if so.
That link says that there have been 1100 articles in the Guardian, and also well-known right wing rags the Times, Mail and Telegraph, "most of" which are attacks. Bizarre to group those four papers together; one of them is very much not like the others. I would believe it of the other three, of course.
Here is some news coverage of what's going on in the Guardian. Mind, some of the articles are a little older, but the overall situation hasn't improved. The only thing that has changed is the normalization of the transphobic content the Guardian has put out over the years.
The articles below contain links to various Guardian articles
The moral high grounding of liberal minded people is one of the reasons right wing populists are gaining ground globally. Rather than slamming the Guardian for not always aligning 100% with your views, why not see if the content of the actual article is worth your fury.
I am not a liberal, so I can totally be outraged about what the article is describing and point out the Guardian's contribution to that particular problem.
Bullshit. Liberals won't fight for anything and thats why the Nazis are coming back.
The bar is in hell if opposing websites suggesting my people are some disease or delusion that's harming children and needs to be eradicated is moral high grounding for liberal minded people.
Because everyone is all about getting their information from a library… where is the closest library… how about we google that - oh looky here trans folk and porn is everywhere now!
What the actual fuck are you even saying?
The suppression of knowledge and non-conservative views by American politicians and fundamentalist groups is all lip service when it comes to banning books because information these days is no longer bound to libraries it’s on the internet.