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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (15 children)

To be fair, we basically just elected a Biden-style neoliberal who is slightly to the right of Trudeau. As affordability continues to gradually decline, our Trump (Poilievre) or a similar guy will be even more empowered. We're basically a few years behind the USA right now and your right are actively trying to speed it up.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Bold of you to assume OP doesn't live in Turkey or Israel.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I already see Canadian tankies complaining about how right-wing Carney is.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 week ago (4 children)
  1. fuck tankies
  2. i DO think it is fair to lament that the state of the world has anyone in a place where they must strategically vote for a fucking banker to protect you from something worse
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Canadian Overton Window shifts to the right, regardless.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'm not sure I'm following but I want to, Carney was a banker which is bad but he is considered a necessary evil against Trump? I would totally understand that, as Canada might be really fucked without a good leader right now. I suppose this banker will need to prove himself, but if you an actor has been able to protect Ukraine (most of it) against Russia a banker doesn't sound like a bad choice.

That aside, do people here think Carney is equally left/right as Trudeau was or do you think the liberals will have very different direction under his leadership?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (4 children)

my point was more that bankers are the embodiment of the banality of evil and pp is the embodiment of true mask off evil

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[–] ImplyingImplications 51 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I mean the guy is a straight laced professor of economics who wrote his thesis on the advantage of competition. He's not exactly a working class hero. However, it could have been way worse and anyone who can't see that just needs to look at the US to find out what happens when you don't vote for the lesser of two evils.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (7 children)

IMO anybody who promotes competition and antimonopoly is a working class hero.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Lesser of two evils, lesser of two intellects, lesser of two personalities, lesser of two qualifications, lesser of two accomplishments, we did all of that and then some. I'm happy for you all. I just wish we could have also rejected fascism.

[–] grte 23 points 1 week ago

You don't have to be a tankie to see that Carney is a red tory.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

you don’t have to be an authcom to see that carney is to the right of trudeau; he canceled the carbon tax, the capital gains tax hike, and is in favor of building more oil pipelines

no matter who won, canada would shift to the right. all we could do is decide by how much.

(and either way, all 3 of them - trudeau, carney and poilievre - are neolibs who support the genocide in palestine)

[–] Albbi 13 points 1 week ago

He cancelled the carbon tax because the name had been beaten up by the Conservatives. He promised to replace it with something similar but more palatable to the general public. I loved the carbon tax but agree that half the population was against it because pretty much they hated the name.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He explained in depth his reasoning for both of those decisions and if you listen to him its because the carbon tax failed to accomplish its goal and he is going to tackle the problem another way.He still supports the issue he is just trying a different solution.

For the cgt its because Canada has entered a trade war with its closest trading partner and he is planning to do massive investment in Canada and doesnt want a cgt hike disincentivizing investment.

Do you disagree with this reasoning?

[–] theacharnian -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Right wing does not mean unreasonable. It means right wing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

But he still has a left wing stance on those issues.

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[–] theacharnian 10 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Anything to the left of the Liberals is "tankies" now?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

And if the conservative had won they all would have suddenly become optimists "the bright side is that this will weaken the western empire and accelerated the revolution of the working class!"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Ah, the enlightened centrist has bestowed the ultimate and correct opinion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Fuck tankies too. Many Canadians are understandably concerned that a guy slightly to the right of the status quo which gave rise to Poilievre is not going to make anything better for us.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

yeah yeah well our broken country will still infect them like a mold so nanny nanny boo boo.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Yeah, our smug cloud has completely dissipated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmG64mVQV3g

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