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President Trump said he would talk to Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney about making Canada the 51st state. But the president said he didn't expect it to get to the point of using military force — though he wouldn't commit to the same for Greenland. 

"Something could happen with Greenland, I'll be honest," Trump said in an interview with NBC News' "Meet the Press" that aired on Sunday.  He said that "we need that for national and international security," but he added "I don't see it with Canada. I just don't see it."

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Trump sounds more like Putin every hour.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I look forward to his funeral

[–] epicstove 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Margaret Thatcher of the US.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s a little different:

Thatcher fucked the kids.

Donald Trump fucks kids.

[–] epicstove 6 points 1 day ago

Maggie the milk snatcher vs. Donnie the Diddler.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Why is he so obsessed with Greenland?

[–] CircaV 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Cause Peter Thiel (billionaire) wants to build a billionaire's bunker there for the apocalypse.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Mineral resources, especially since the ice is melting. They don't believe in global warming but they accept that the ice cap is melting. Then there are fishing rights around it. Finally it would control a chunk of the arctic ocean at a time when the north ice cap is melting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

They believe in global warming. They just say they don’t because they’re lying psychopaths who would kill millions for their own gain.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Shipping routes will be there in the not-so-far future when the ice is gone.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Easy target from his perspective. Would draw Nato resources away from Ukraine, so his boss would be pleased.

When Trump does something incomprehensibly useless from an American perspective, always ask "What's in it for Putin?" and you may find you get answers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Theres a few reasons but it would be a huge military advantage, not that I agree with it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Natural resources perhaps?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

He probably thinks it's actually green.

[–] CircaV 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Damn right. Cause the US would deputize 40 million insurgents both in and out of Canada if they ever tried.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would be a very stupid and long battle for nothing

[–] CircaV 1 points 1 day ago

We’d take so many with us. And we’d go full scorched Earth.

[–] phoenixz 36 points 2 days ago

I could start WWIII, I can see that happening

Don't you love trump?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

Only if that kid was a better shot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Put NATO forces there so the US would invoke the mutual defense clause.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are already NATO forces there. Specifically Denmark and USA

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

US Sends Troops to Greenland to Defend it From US Troops

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or see how fast they withdraw from NATO and form a new alliance.

According to Article 13 of the 1949 NATO treaty, members can declare their withdrawal, but the document does not provide for a member to be expelled. The only measure the treaty provides to sanction serious violations of the alliance's principles is a joint decision by the other member states to restrict or suspend cooperation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The US military is such an essential part of NATO that if they don't withdraw, a new alliance should definitely be made.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 days ago (16 children)

There is no way, in hell, that Trump plans on making Canadians into American citizens. Why would he add the equivalent of another California to the voting population. No Canadian will ever cast a vote in favor of the political party that took their country from them.

What version of statehood is he envisioning here?

The scariest part here is that the Republicans are acting, in every way, like they will never be subject to a legitimate vote again.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

It's only rumours so far, but according to the new president nobody is going to vote ever again, soo

[–] OutlierBlue 27 points 2 days ago

There is no way, in hell, that Trump plans on making Canadians into American voters ~~citizens~~.

We'll be like Guam or Puerto Rico.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

They already answered this question. They would use procedural rules to prevent Canadian votes from mattering, the same as they have done in the US in many states.

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[–] [email protected] 262 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Reminder to the military: you are not required to follow illegal orders. In fact, you are duty-bound to disobey them

[–] [email protected] 93 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (12 children)

I'm quite positive, whether he invades a sovereign nation or not, in some time -- be it five years, ten, or more -- we'll have our own version of the Nuremberg trials. Whoever is still alive that perpetrated or participated in this rape of democracy will be held accountable, someday, because all dictatorships fall.

The only question is how many people have to suffer before then.

[–] skisnow 2 points 1 day ago

America today is not substantially different to the America that dropped more tonnage of bombs on each of Laos and Cambodia than were dropped by the Allies during the whole of WW2, destroying whole villages and murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in stark violation of international law and the Geneva Convention.

Nobody came even close to being brought to justice for that, so why would things be any different now?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago

I hope that you’re right, but it does need to be pointed out that Nazi Germany didn’t have thousands of strategic nukes

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 days ago (6 children)

An invasion of Greenland, or Canada, wouldn't necessarily be unlawful.

Remember 9/11? Remember George Bush asking Congress to approve his use of military force to hunt down the suspects?

Well that Authorization for the Use of Military Force, unlike any prior which had clearly defined limitations, was simply against "terror" and set to expire "never."

One member of Congress refused to vote for this, precisely because she understood that Congress was effectively forever giving up its ability to determine when and how the President was allowed to deploy the military. She got death threats. She was right.

All Trump has to do is "find" a terrorist threat in a country, and he's allowed to send US troops there. Remember how he recently decided that fentanyl is a weapon of mass destruction? Yeah.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago

The fact that he's even entertaining this is insane. He needs to be removed from office. Fuck the media for reporting on it like this is just one side of an argument that makes any kind of sense.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I consider the US our enemy. Even if we come to an agreement at this point, it's the duty of every Canadian to backstab the US when such an opportunity arises. There can no longer be peaceful co-existence unless the US is split apart. Every Canadian employed by an american employer should start stealing IP and sabotaging operations. This is just the beginning.

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[–] [email protected] 130 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Threatening war on an ally, a member of the EU and UN; while helping the enemy.

That's not what a russian asset would do...

[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Forcing the UN to split their forces between Ukraine and Greenland....

Totally not what a Russian asset would do.

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[–] SirMaple__ 91 points 3 days ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 days ago (26 children)

Translation:

Canada would probably put up a fight, and bullies only pick on those too weak to resist.

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[–] Montreal_Metro 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Americans aren’t doing anything about it. Just sitting there taking it. If you’re not doing anything to fight Trump then as far as I’m concerned you’re part of the problem.

[–] phoenixz 34 points 3 days ago

Both are a threat with violence and war to independent states, let there be no mistake.

This should not just be condemned politically by every other country, they should boycot the usa

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 days ago (4 children)

If we need Greenland so bad how is it we’ve been just fine leaving them the fuck alone since forever?

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

Bullies don't attack people they're scared of.

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