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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Calling is 10 times faster for 90 percent of my issues in my job. And my job is dealing with issues for 30 different people happening simultaneously. So yea, I like to cut back time when I can.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Yeah

It completely depends on this. Do you need a conversation, or do you need a response.

People don't know how to do the one they need to do, so they hit every fastener with the hammer they got.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Since I have to give away 99% of my "confidential" information to landleeches to beg for a basement to barely survive in, scammers infest every nook and cranny of the rental market. Ive probably had my info stolen while looking for an apartment 10 times by now. Does anyone do anything about the scammers making fake rental listings? Fuck no! Centralize rental listings in one location? Get fucked!

This of course ignores the GiGa data leaks that happen every 5 days.

Every call I get is a scam call. Every single one.

Till you call I guess. Well guess what, the actual people who want to call me aren't much better then the scammers.

I'm so glad you are living such a good life that you look forward to a phone call. That you are excited to voluntarily interact with another human being. Not everyone has such a privilege.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago

Phone calls used to be better when they were analog land lines. The fidelity(idk if that's the right word, but go ahead and catch my drift) was amazing.

You could hear every breath, every intonation in voice, every shift in body language. I think our subconscious works on stuff like that a lot more than anyone cares to admit. Every phone conversation you've had in the past 10 years has been digitally compressed.

The headsets themselves were ergonomic. Easy to use, fit the face and head alot better than the phones we use nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (11 children)

How? Asynchronous communication is better for a lot of people. And now that we have really good choices for that, it's hard to ignore.

A phone call demands that you drop everything in that moment and pay close attention to the person on the other end. If they ramble, deviate, breathe heavily, have a lot of background noise, etc, you're stuck with that experience for the duration. Also, recording without consent is illegal in a lot of places, so you have to be able to write things down in order to refer back to the conversation if it contains any important information.

In contrast, everything else is self-documenting, can be read through multiple times, and can be handled when there is time to focus on that task. As a bonus: most people can read and understand text faster than they can listen. So it's just more efficient.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Which is why I'll never understand people who send recordings. It's the worst of both worlds.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

People who send voice notes piss me off so much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

Oh god, a 5 minute voice note with no accompanying text, just shoot me. Like you're really going to make me listen to you ramble on a 1x speed while you get to some point that I guarantee could fit in one or two sentences, if you took the modicum of brain power required to compose your thoughts into coherent words.

PS. I understand a lot of people love sending voice notes back and forth, and that's totally fine if it's the thing.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

No no, teams is number 1

Because it is only on my work computer that I shutdown when I'm done

[–] [email protected] 21 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

Why are people so offended over the fact there are some ppl who don't like phone calls? 🤷‍♀️ who cares

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

People who are so used to getting everyone to stop what they're doing get upset when they aren't the center of attention.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

And if you really don't want me to call you or call you back .... text, email or send me a message that says

CALL ME

That is the single most disgusting uninteresting uninformative and ugliest thing that anyone can text me. You can text me a dick pick, ransom demands, blackmail images, racist crap or gore pictures of something and I wouldn't complain and probably might even respond to you ... but if you just text me 'CALL ME', I'm blocking your number or contact and never answering anything from you again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

RIP your inbox

[–] [email protected] 13 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Its my right to be not reachable, outside of work i will take time for your matter when its fitting for me.

And im forgetful and prefer to be able read important information again.

Thats why my phone is always on mute and my voice recorder tells people my email address.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Easy:

Between ages 13 and 18 if I received a phone call it was because I was in trouble, so now when I get one there is a pang of guilt and panic over whatever it is I could have possibly done

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

In a world where async communication is effortless, demanding immediate attention is antisocial.

You're saying that you don't care what I'm doing at the moment. You want my full attention immediately. Even leaving a message is more of a time waste than a simple text message

  1. don't call unless it's urgent
  2. if you're calling me it's not urgent

This doesn't apply to landlines, ofc

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Easy, back in the day all we had was phone call for instant communication, so not much to compare to.

Also, you didn't call a person, you called a house or place of work. This meant it was used more sparingly (need to keep the line open/share with the rest of the house) and if you were away, then that phone call couldn't bother you. This also meant people were used to not being able to reach who they wanted to talk to, so if you felt like letting the answering machine get it, no one would think anything of it. You were either on the phone or present in the moment, not trying to talk with a number of people who don't know each other.

Now everyone has a phone at their hip. You can call someone and if that someone sends it to voicemail, you know they did and it can become a point of drama depending on the circumstance. Now I can be in the middle of text conversations with a half dozen people across half the world and so when my phone unexpectedly rings then I wonder who is this asshole who thinks they deserve my full attention over these other folks, even though the other person has no way of knowing about those conversations. We are expected to juggle concurrent conversations and a phone call derails that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Y'know, I've been thinking it's more than that lately. Yes, all that is true, but I think the younger generations who grew up being terminally connected to everything, always having to have a phone on them, always needing to be able to be reached by people, all their business on social media etc... I think we've developed an unspoken respect that when we contact people we let them respond on their own terms. If you text someone you are telling them, hey, I need something but, you can read this when it's convenient, and you can respond when and in the method that's convenient to you. When you call someone you are saying, I need something and I need you to deal with it right now over immediate voice chat. Yes, we can say I'm busy therefore I'll let it go to voicemail, but in this day and age of respectful texting being the norm, we often assume a call out of the blue from a known number IS something important that requires immediate attention.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

This creates a generational disconnect. Like when my phone rings unexpectedly at work, it's 95% this one colleague in his 70s who is nice enough, but it instinctively feels rude because I feel like I need to answer. From his perspective, if I just don't answer that's fine and that's the etiquette he was used to, try to call and no biggie if it doesn't connect.

Going the other way, I know someone dealing with a person in their 80s over urgent important stuff and that person just will be utterly unreachable so much of the time. For them, there's no such thing as "urgent enough to need immediate attention" because that was just not possible for them and society developed around the norm of folks just not being available as much.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

I want shit that leaves a record so when someone pulls a "I didn't say red", I can pull out the text or DM or whatever, and say, "So when you said red here was it that special red that's actually blue?"

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago

Not having to be available at the ready for people is great.

If you arrange for a call, through another asynchronous mechanism, then it's fine. If you cold-call me to ask about the weather (or, more seriously, anything that could have been a text message), I'll leave decapitated horse head in your fridge.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

For me I hate phone calls because it's someone demanding I drop what I'm doing to address whatever they want. Keep in mind, 99% of phone calls I get are at work form co-workers.

The number of "quick calls" that are actually quick I can count on 1 hand, and still have room for more. I have tasks to accomplish, things to do. And I'm spread so thin between all the things I do, there's a fair chance I'm going to forget something about what you asked/told me. If it's in text form I can review it when I loop back to it. You need me to check/validate/run something, cool. I have record of what, when, and if I completed it. Just because you have a question does not make it an emergency on my part.

As for my home phone, the only folks who ever call me are either telemarketers or scams. If a friend called I'd probably answer (if I have the time). But I think most of my friends are in the same boat, we have so much to do these days (non-recreation) that it's just not easy to find time. A lot of my friends have side-hustles or a second job or are in class (like me) in order to stay competitive. When I was a kid, I remember my parents could unwind at the end of the day, friends would just come over to hang out. It just ain't like that no more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Just because you have a question does not make it an emergency on my part.

This is it for me. If someone is an auditory processor, or needs a more nuanced conversation in order to understand something, I sympathize. But not everyone is like that. Just send a quick message asking to chat (or better yet, find time on my calendar if it's for work), and then I can prepare what I know on the subject, review it, and get back to you.

Otherwise you're going to get an ear full of ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm
uhhhhh hmm
hang on, I was just
hang on, just loooking that upp....
click
scroll
scroll
click
click
scroll
scrolllll
Right, so
(silence while I'm reading)
Right, uh, so
Okay
It was last Tuesday
Was that it?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In addition to everything else, there's also a feedback loop of spam calls predominating. The more legit conversation moves to other methods, the more spam calls stick out. That, in turn, means even more people prefer something other than phone calls. It eventually gets to the point where 99% of calls are spam, and that whole method of communication becomes useless.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago

Two words for me. Read. Receipts. I have found that someone will inevitably text me and say, "why didn't you respond?" Fucker. You texted me. Want me to actually engage with you? Call me. Otherwise you're now at my mercy.

I prefer calling because it's easy to silence and just let it go to VM if I am busy. Call back immediately and that's usually a sign of being needed.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (13 children)

For me it's a few reasons:

  1. It demands my attention right here, right now
  2. I don't know that it's going to happen, I cannot prepare
  3. Usually during the call I'm forced to hold the phone, meaning I can't look stuff up or write stuff down easily
  4. I fidn listening way harder than reading, and the quality of calls doesn't help with that

I much prefer text because it give some time to delay answering until it's convenient for me, look up answers to any questions I may have, and because I can re-read and think about stuff.

Calling is like an interrupt forcing me to drop everything there and then and immediately provide an answer, messaging is something I poll every now and then when I'm not overloaded or focused so I can actually take the time to answer.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A phone call allows people to hold a conversation. All the others are just correspondence.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

Yes. And some people prefer correspondence, that's ok.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't like phone calls either. But now people are starting to send voice messages. Might just as well call me if you're going to steal 3 minutes with every message, with info which could have been typed in 5 words. I ignore voice messages, I tell people I do yet they still get angry with "why didn't you reply, all the messages is only 7 minutes of listening time it's not that bad". FFS

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly voice messages make me unreasonably angry. It's all of the inconvenience of a phone call with none of the immediacy, like voicemail but for every sentence. Thank you for sharing my hatred, I feel less alone

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[–] argh_another_username 162 points 1 day ago (6 children)

This was a teacher that told me in the 90s. “Phone calls are an invasion. When you call someone you’re saying ‘stop everything you’re doing and talk to me’. This was specially true when Caller ID was not a thing.”

Leaving a message equals to a DM or text. The recipient can respond later, but a call, it must be at that moment. It’s synchronous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Agreed. There are only three modern/common communications channels which are truly synchronous:

  1. In-person communication
  2. Phone calls
  3. Video calls

Everything else is asynchronous, and does not necessarily involve an interruption or a disruption of your time - you can get to it when you want to, within polite reason.

And with the fragmentation of our attention due to social media - to say nothing about the broader nature of our modern culture - being able to handle communication asynchronously is becoming very important to people.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

People in the comments claiming it's social anxiety but I have no problem talking to people face to face or in an internet-based voice or video call. But phone calls are just ass. The audio quality sucks, I barely understand what the other person says and I don't get to choose when and where it happens, might be one or both people are in some noisy situation etc and it's just all around so awkward. I also think it's kinda rude. A message is "Hey I want to exchange X information, reply whenever you want", a call is "YOU WILL PAY ATTENTION TO ME RIGHT NOW". It's also incredibly annoying when some official place insists on phone calls only. Fucking brilliant, now I have to take half an hour of my day queueing and/or calling repeatedly to get done what I would have typed out in half a minute as an email. It's even worse if it's them who call you. "You will get a call from us in the next 3 days". Now I have to be on fucking high alert to be available at that exact time or the back and forth missed calls start. Instead of just receiving an email and replying whenever.

Edit: not to even mention that text is permanent and can be referenced later while calls are not

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