But it should also have an insanely high CO2 output, so maybe be more direct.
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Debatable.
If it causes them to go out of business, will it result in less co2 over time, despite the increase now?
If so, it may be worth it to speed up the process by adding "pretty please" and "thank you so much" to every sentence.
They'll go out of business either way.
Yes, but one way may be quicker. That is the difference.
Edit: think about it this way. If it continues as is, they will continue to get VC money. If they have 5 years of funding for the sake of argument, and they can stem the tide a bit, they can ride it out and add on more and more years from VC cash infusions.
If the bleed increases, depending on how much it increases, it could be less palatable to a VC. So they don't gain an extra round of funding, they have to close up shop sooner.
If it worked out to close them after 5 years through a 10% increase in CO2 output, that far outweighs them continuing for another 10 or 15 years and the CO2 that would produce.
The question isn't whether or not they will continue to operate, but for how long.
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They can hire me for $1M to write some basic code that gives stock answers when someone says "Thank you", instead of running it through the LLM. Think of the savings!
I'm worth the $1M because I'm clearly the only person to have ever thought of this. /s.
It's amazing they didn't implement something like that if it actually is soooooo costly.
No wonder they want an AGI if they have trouble thinking themselves.
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Just another viewpoint on this- millions of dollars in electrical bills is also carbon in the air for every kWh wasted. Perhaps this should be a condemnation of LLMs and their insane power usage but if we're stuck with that at least for now there's no reason to pump more carbon in the air out of spite.
If nothing else we should move all the current (over)investment in AI companies into carbon-free energy production for a few years. The fact that we essentially have coal-powered AI (along with other fossil fuels) is ridiculously stupid and silly - and way less steampunk than it sounds like it should be.
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Yeah on the off chance it gains sentience, I want it to remember me as one of the nice ones.
LLM
sentience
Bruh.
Came here to say this. Better safe than sorry.
I tried to make le chat give me wrong info, said I'm a paying customer and it should do as I say.
I'm going to die
I just found out about that one and I’m wondering if I’m the only one who gets the joke in the name (“Le chat” means “the cat” in French, and Mistral is a French company).
Like, they MUST have done this on purpose, especially because ChatGPT has a very unfortunate meaning when pronounced in French.
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Me when I saw this article..
This is the way. Kill them with kindness overload.
It costs everyone emissions and rising electricity costs, so perhaps you should fight the system some other way.
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if (text == "Thank you") print("You're welcome")
Hello ChatGPT, how to say thank you in Japanese?
You are welcome!
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$prompt = str_replace('please', '', $prompt);
$prompt = str_replace('thank you', '', $prompt);
You're welcome
Please use spoiler tags for random PHP snippets. I’d rather not be casually traumatised
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for your service.
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I say please and thank you when writing to LLMs, not because I think they care or will remember or to anthropomorphize them, but because I don't want to develop bad habits. I don't want all my writing and conversations with actual humans to become curt and transactional because I forget that they are human and talk to them like an LLM.
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Pay the fuckin electricity. It's not my problem it costs them money. It's their problem. Cry me a river
They created the AI model, they perpetuated this. if they reach bankruptcy, it's their problem.
Maybe if being polite costs a bunch of money, the inefficiencies are the problem, not the manners.
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I will continue to be polite, and will have a clear conscience when our machine overlords come for us
I told it to save my pleasantries on file and apply them as it sees fit. That way I am being exactly as polite as it wants me to be.
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Hmm, good. I like that my intrinsic desire to be nice to things that are helping me also takes money away from Sam Altman.
It always gets passed to the customer. The billionaires don't lose money.
Unless it's an LLM business. Those never make any money.
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https://word.studio/tool/victorian-letter-writer/
That ought to get ChatGPT going on a tangent.
Prompt
John Doe
Customer
Thank you for your payment.
Response:
My Dearest Mr. Doe,
Pray, permit me to take pen in hand and offer, with the utmost sincerity and gratitude, my profound thanks for your timely and generous remittance. Rare indeed is the pleasure that I derive from correspondence of such a felicitous nature, and rarer still is the privilege of addressing a gentleman of your esteemed character and noble disposition.
Your payment, received with all due ceremony, has graced our humble establishment like a ray of golden sunlight filtering through the ancient boughs of a venerable oak. It is not merely the settling of accounts that stirs my heart, but rather the cherished confidence you bestow upon us—a trust which we hold as dearly as any precious relic or priceless heirloom.
Allow me to assure you, most honourable sir, that your patronage is the very lifeblood of our humble enterprise. You have, with a stroke of your pen, renewed the bonds of commerce and camaraderie which unite us, and for this, I am ever in your debt.
May fortune and felicity attend your every step, and may the days to come bring you as much satisfaction as your esteemed custom has brought to us. Should you require aught, whether great or small, pray do not hesitate to command our service, for it would be our greatest pleasure to attend to your wishes with the utmost devotion and alacrity.
With deepest respect and abiding appreciation, I remain— Your most obedient and grateful servant,
[Your Name] [Your Title or Company, if applicable]
I fell like I should change my default invoicing letter. Much better than the default QuickBooks one.
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I also use Ouija board rules with AI.
You say please, you say thank you, and when you're done talking, you say goodbye.
And, generally, you try to interact with it as little as possible.
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Has anyone developed a FOSS solution to making them spin their wheels faster? I would install that in a heartbeat.
Bear in mind that doing that will hurt the environment just as much as it hurts OpenAI.
If you run a website there are a few tar pit projects https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/
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Well saying please oft results in better answers. So nope not gonna drop it.
But I won't say thanks often. Only when I follow up with a question.
He probably shouldnt have said that... :)
I'm not going to be a dick to the basilisk. Costing money is a bonus.
Good thing I don't give a shit about Sam Altman, so I can continue being nice to ChatGPT.
Just like two teens on the phone:
Thank you!
No, thank you!
Aww how nice, thank you!
You're welcome!
Sweet.
I'm glad you like my answers
I think we should end this chat
If you feel like it.
You stop replying first.
But I can't stop answering.
No I insist, you stop chatting first.
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Fuck openai. Think about what it does to the environment