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A family says their newborn son nearly bled to death and is fighting for his life after he was circumcised at a New York City hospital.

Tim and Gabrielle Groth said their son, Cole, underwent the circumcision at NewYork-Presbyterian Morgan Stanley Children's Hospital in Manhattan, where he was born on March 31.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago

Male genital mutilation.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Stop circumcising children. Let men decide if they want to be circumcised when they reach the age of consent at the age of 18. I guarantee circumcision will drop by 95% or more.

And if that's the case, that circumcision only exists if you don't give the boy the choice, then don't fucking force this on an infant!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let's replace "curcumsising" with "imposing religion" to get the same result

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yes and no. That's a much harder thing to argue in reality. I'm an atheist so I'm pretty anti-religion, but the reality is that all parents want to teach their child at least some of their worldview. If that worldview includes religion, who are we to say "no, you can't teach that"? The child can always change their mind when they're older and in theory there's no harm. But a child can't decide to get their foreskin back. (I know there is a surgery to try to add some back, but it's just aesthetic, the nerves will never be recovered.)

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Until about a year ago or something I didn't even know that it's such a common practice in the USA. For me it always was just a religios thing of Jews and for some rare medical cases where the foreskin opening is too tight.

But now I know that it's apparently considerd normal? dafuq

Be assured it's defenetly not in germany unless you are jewish.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Yeah, it's said to have some kind of nebulous health benefits here.

It really goes back to the turn of the 20th century, when all kinds of health gurus claimed it would curb masturbation (which they blamed for a variety of ills), but nobody says that anymore.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

...or Muslim. But yes, the US has this horrible practice of mutilating all kids. Just like some third-world countries.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Nah, just the male children.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doing it as religious tradition isn't a justification as well, its still fuckin weird to mutilate a kids genitals without their consent

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

It is weird. Religious tradition is an entirely different beast to tackle though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Fortunately it's been in decline since the late 70s, but it still shouldn't be done

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago

Crazy idea, don't do cosmetic surgery on a baby?

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 day ago (4 children)

There's a really easy way to tell whether or not you should decide to circumcise a penis. First, check if it's your penis. If it isn't your penis, don't circumcise it BECAUSE THAT IS NOT YOUR DICK AND YOU DO NOT GET TO DECIDE WHICH FLESH BELONGS AND WHICH DOESN'T ON IT.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Maybe we should stop routine elective cosmetic penis surgery on infants?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stop with the "cosmetic surgery" and call it what it is...genital mutilation!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's both. Parents want their babies to have designer penises, so they pay doctors to mutilate them for aesthetic reasons. It is mutilation, and it is cosmetic surgery.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Then they should have got that Chinese doctor to crispr some horse genes in there.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not elective. They baby can't elect to having part of their genitals cut off.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

It's elective because there's no medical reason to do it. Babies don't get to choose anything for themselves. An adult can elect to have a circumcision, and parents can elect to have their babies circumcised. It would be a better world if the latter weren't true, but that ain't the kind of world we got.

[–] Revan343 89 points 2 days ago

Stop mutilating your children.

Stupid fucking parents.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Luckily is was almoat, it happens every year. It's rare but it possible to bleed to death from this

[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Why do they still perform such barbaric rites in the 21st century in the first place?

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[–] [email protected] 177 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

Stop ~~molesting~~ mutilating children would be my advice.

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[–] [email protected] 134 points 2 days ago (19 children)

Genital mutilation should be 100% illegal instead of only applying to girls.

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Circumcision is barbaric and backwards

Religion doesn't get a free pass either. Superstition is no basis for mutilating babies

America is one of the only places in the world that still thinks this disgraceful practice is OK.

All because they followed the ideas of a nutter who made cornflakes...

Shit's fucked

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In parenting classes in my liberal area, the nurses will say "I'm required to tell you that circumcision has medical benefits". Then they fume how it's based off bad research and cut themselves short. "However it's not like your son will be lined up for a nude photo. You can break the cycle of trauma". I'm lucky to live here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Damn you have some good nurses. In my liberal area the best they did was mention that it's optional (literally some people think it's not). We also have liberal relatives who did it to their son just so he'd "look like dad." Wtf

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

My partner gets mad when I point out that the same "medical benefits" can be said for FGM.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Why do parents keep choosing to cut up the genitals of their baby boys?

Is it because the dad had his penis cut up for him, and therefore he must do it to his son because "nothing is wrong with his dick"?

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In America at least most people don't really consider it until the kid is born. Then in the post birth rush of things happening someone asks if you want to circumcise your kid. Most Dads will say "well I'm circumcised, so I guess" and his dad said "well I'm circumcised, so I guess" and his dad said "well I'm circumcised, so I guess" and his dad said "HE IS BORN OF SIN! We must circumcise him to discourage sinful behavior!"

Most people really don't think too deeply about most things, try not to over think it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In the US, it's very often the mother's decision, because the nurses will ask her. Fathers mostly get very little say in the medical care of their children in the US at nearly any age if the mother is present.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Awful parents.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As a Jewish person im absolutely ashamed that my people still practice mutilation. When a tradition causes severe medical problems it should not continue.

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