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A week after declaring that AI would eventually replace contract workers at the language-learning app, Duolingo’s CEO said the company was “continuing to hire” and would support its existing workers in getting up to speed on the technology.

It follows buzzy startup Klarna in backing off an AI-first promise.

Luis von Ahn, co-founder and CEO, took to LinkedIn on Thursday to walk back a previous stance pushing AI use over human employees.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 5 days ago (2 children)

What I find to be the biggest danger about AI is that in subjects I’m an expert in — it is so routinely completely fucking wrong! However, in subjects that I am not an expert in, I cannot call out its lies as it says them with so much confidence. This makes me assume that most of what it says cannot be trusted.

[–] usualsuspect191 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

Fascinating. Thank you for sharing the link!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

With duolingo it's not that it's really wrong. The content is just so fucking bland it's boring.

Their biggest push has been more content using the AI for ideas, and it's been horrible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

If you really want to learn a new language, you don’t even need Duolingo. AI can do it alone. You have a teacher with infinite patience and infinite time. I’ve recently taken to conversing with AI in the language I want to learn and it will instantly help correct my grammar while also carrying the conversation forward. Duolingo, as you say, would just drill me repeatedly on how to say nonsense like “I am a penguin” or “Green tea and coffee.”

[–] [email protected] 65 points 5 days ago (2 children)

AI can easily replace ceos. Far more easier than say a coder.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, maybe when a board replaces their CEO with an AI to save money, the rest of them will get scared and stop spending money on it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Replace the masters!? Then who will drive the slaves?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

SkyNet.

(I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords!)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Unfortunately, not really. CEOs dont get paid a fortune for sitting around signing stuff. They bring their powerful connections to the table and use those in the interests of the company. Not saying they deserve the amount they earn, but its what theyre worth, else noone would be willig to pay them. AI wont be able to replace that any time soon.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Already deleted my account, and it’s staying that way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

I stopped my subscription and complained.

Surprise surprise, my complaint about AI got handled by an AI, what a load of shit.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

They're so so fucking stupid. Like, he's trying to appeal to thickheaded investors so that the stocks pump on AI hype then has to contradict himself entirely when *people who use the actual fucking product * stop using it because it would be an AI slop nightmare.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The myth of the "job creator business owner" is such garbage. Business owners create jobs begrudgingly and as a last resort.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

Yep, by new boss just fired 35 people out for 100 to save costs for investors, and then bitches things aren't getting done and products are not evolving.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I just deleted the app today based off his comments. Losing a 918 day streak (but, really, who cares?). A friend of mine deleted it this week, too, and lost 1,200 days.

He’ll “walk this back” today and 100% move forward with reducing the human workforce when the heat dies down. I don’t trust him one bit.

ALSO: check your local library. There’s a chance it has Mango Languages available for free. That’s what I switched to. Now that app sits in the same place where Duo used to be. Easy swap.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for the mango recommendation! It's really solid and ties into my library system to boot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Years ago, I used Duolingo only, every day for about 4-5 months until i reached a point where it was difficult enough that I was making too many mistakes.

I later did about 10 lessons with an online teacher, starting from the basics, pronunciation, grammar, alphabet and etc. When I carried on with duolingo after the lessons, it was so much easier that I was getting 100% rights. Just 10 lessons were better than months on duolingo.

Made me realise that duolingo and similar apps are not the best way to learn.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Duolingo is absolute shit for the basic sentence structure and rules because nothing is explained. Especially if learning a language with a different script like cyrilic or arabic or chinese writting.

I had some issues with norwegian because certain rules were not really clear and also not explained. They also removed the comments part where people could discuss the sentences and such.

Once you know the basics duolingo actually becomes usable as a vocabulary expansion and maybe listening and speaking exercises.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yea, i used to occasionally use it to test myself, about once a month.

Once I learnt the basics from the teacher and learnt 1K high frequency words on my own from a anki deck, I found I could read books and understand podcasts meant for learners. This never happened when I was using duolingo. When I used Duolingo, I would try every few week to read some native stuff and I never saw much improvement compared to the improvement I saw immediately after some lesson with a teacher.

After that I ditched duolingo and avoid other similar type of apps. I think apps that focus on high frequency vocab, like speakly (paid), clozemaster(paid), lingvist or 1k/5k high frequency ANKI deck are probably better, they are also using normal sentences.

I am still a beginner but now I focus more on consuming the language. I also see no harm using duolingo as a way to test yourself every now and then since its free.

[–] puppinstuff 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I’m hoping Lingonaut will be available before my subscription renews in December. Otherwise it’s RocketLanguages through my library.

I like learning Japanese but I’m done with the gamified streaks and badges and passive aggressive widgets.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Check out wanikani. It's SRS, but done really well.

https://www.wanikani.com/

[–] puppinstuff 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

If you're android, there's an app called smoldering durtles, otherwise you gotta use the website. I created a tasker profile to notify me when new lessons or reviews are available. Lmk if you're interested

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

That fucking lightning, am I right?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I forsee other apps replacing what duolingo does

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Thats the circle of life. A product becomes so successful it has complete monopoly of its specific nieche, they start milking for every cent, it gets replaced by 10 similar products and becomes completely irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Busuu is like what Duolingo used to be, but with native audio/video clips, actual grammar lessons, and the chance to write/speak sentences and have them graded by native speakers (other app users).

It's free with ads, but the paid tier is also cheaper than Duolingo. 👍

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Memrise isn’t bad.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh stfu Luis. You said what you said because you fucking meant it. You fucking cash addicts would murder your own children if it meant line go up this quarter.

At least own the fact you're a fucking monster, and yeah, Luis, be the monster you are in fucking public. We all see you now motherfucker.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

I would almost respect hypocrites like this more if they owned it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

But we still see AI replacing you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

AI could have predicted this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

damage done, L nerd

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

Don't use Duolingo

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

It’s not the only thing he said. Dude has been going bonkers. Saying schools are just daycares and AI is a better teacher.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

Lmao. It’s because AI sucks

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

This guy is an asshat. I saw him do a few AMAs on Reddit and he did not come off well especially when addressing some concerns around accessibility.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

Ai is cool for a few use cases in my daily work, like reformulating my mail to be more nice and professional sounding after I refer type an answer to people I genuinely think had a lobotomy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Because anyone that's tried to use an LLM for more than shits and giggles knows they're unreliable, finicky golden geese.

My rule with Claude is that if I can't get a code fix after 3 asks, it's hallucinating too much and I have to pull my shit into a new instance and start with new prompts. Yes, that's a temporary problem that will last 2 years max, but its not enough on which to be totally overhauling the global economy today.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It's really not a temporary problem. LLMs hallucinate by design, they're just pattern recognition engines. They're always going to be like this and we need to develop totally different tools for more rigorous tasks. This particular technology is a dead end, I think.

[–] cygnus 7 points 5 days ago

Exactly - LLMs by definition don't know or understand the meaning of the words they're saying. That technology can never yield something intelligent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

It's temporary in the sense that 2 years ago, this stuff barely worked. We might be at a plateau of compute, but Deep Seek did highlight that gains may be possible through design rather than compute.

This is not the end of history. In even 5 years what we're all using now will be cringe garbage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Every time I see this guy and the word Duilingo I think Ding-a-ling. As in Ding Dong Dickhead. Is it just me?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Too late, dipshit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

The ones who get to keep their jobs is what he means

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago