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Big Surprise, faux populist backed by real estate moguls

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[–] ImplyingImplications 35 points 1 year ago

Wait a sec, you're telling me a career politician and landlord isn't a working class hero??

[–] droopy4096 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So the person advocating to solve housing crisis is spinsored by big real estate? Smells aquatic here... gills and all. There's a rodent in this pile, that everyone will forget to look for untill it's too late.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is no surprise. PP is just a fascist version of Trudeau. Nothing will change except laws targeting the lgbtq community and relaxing environmental regulations.

[–] cyberpunk007 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is there even a good choice to vote for?

[–] girlfreddy 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yes.

Canada is not a two-party system, although for some reason many can't seem to look beyond the Lib/Con juggernaut.

[–] cyberpunk007 2 points 1 year ago

But it is basically a 2 party system if only libs and cons ever win. It's a circlejerk.

[–] cyberpunk007 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is what I'm referring to. In effect it's a 2 party system, which is frustrating.

[–] girlfreddy 6 points 1 year ago

It's only that way because too many won't vote for an alternative.

Take the plunge! Vote NDP or Green!

[–] Pxtl -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Canada is a two-party system, we just happen to have more than two parties in that system.

Edit: downvotes? Really? 2016 and the broken Electoral Reform promise was not that long ago do we have to explain proportional and ranked voting systems and the flaws of first-past-the-post again?

[–] zephyreks 1 points 1 year ago

The NDP has about as good policy as you're going to get in Canada if you care at all about the working class.

[–] corsicanguppy 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Joke all you like, but they're counting on EXACTLY that. "I hear Trudeau sucks but these guys have no plan. Okay, pick them"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Canadians tend to vote out than vote in. I know there are more parties than liberal or conservative but in our entire history there hasn't been a parliament that hasn't been the main two. There really isn't any good options and it's infuriating.

[–] blunderworld 20 points 1 year ago

I am far too poor for this timeline.

[–] Ulrich_the_Old 9 points 1 year ago

There is nothing that trump lite offers that is of any use to Canada.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago
[–] OminousOrange 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

While I'm opposed to corporate money in politics, the amounts these executives contributed seems rather paltry.

[–] corminsterfullerene 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Due to donation limits ($1700 / year), it's hard to amount to much unless you sprinkle it across all members of the household and donate to the party and EDA too.

https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=pol&dir=lim&document=lim2023&lang=e

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

@OminousOrange @mooniyaw You can thank #JeanCretien for getting #Corporate money out of politics (at least, by direct donations). Surprisingly, #StephenHarper reduced personal contributions even further (a way of owning the #Libs as at the time their party was much better at attricting lots of small doners).
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/pms-donation-plan-stuns-party/article25428665/ #cdnpoli

[–] girlfreddy 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In 2019 Canada enacted Bill C-76 which allows third-party donations (somewhat equivalent to America's super PACS) which allows unlimited donations ... from here:

Can I donate to third parties?

Even if you are not organizing events or producing advertising, you may still choose to engage in the election by making contributions to third parties to support their regulated activities. Unlike political contributions, individuals, businesses, and other organizations are permitted to make contributions to third parties, and are not subject to any monetary or non-monetary limit on the amount of their contributions.[30] A third party, however, must not use funds from a foreign entity to pay for regulated activities.[31]

Each contributor’s name and their contribution amounts must be reported in the third party’s financial returns, which are then published on the Elections Canada website.[32]

[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What really??? We intentionally legislated the equivalent of Citizens United, one of the worst US Supreme Court decisions on political speech?

[–] girlfreddy 3 points 1 year ago

Yup. Political parties felt hamstrung so enacted laws that got waaaayyyy too little attention at the time.

It's essentially open season for political donations from Big Business but you will NEVER hear a politician say that out loud.

[–] Ulrich_the_Old 3 points 1 year ago

If you liked trump then Squinty McProudBoy is your guy. If you are a decent human being find someone else to vote for. A vote for bitcoin milhouse is a vote for racism, white supremacy, misogyny, and hatred.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Surprised pikachu face

[–] Pxtl 2 points 1 year ago

I always hate how we conflate developers and speculators when we talk about real-estate companies. Like, if somebody supports the automobile industry, you'd assume they mean factories and not dealerships.

Hearing Poilievre has support from builders would be good news in a housing crisis. Hearing Poilievre has support from investors and speculators who are gouging people and exploiting the housing crisis, not so much.

[–] ininewcrow 2 points 1 year ago

When election hopes are based on how much money your campaign has and how much of it is corporately supported ...

... it's starting to look more like a plutocracy rather than a democracy